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To: Qatar-6
I have news for you--had Ivan invaded Europe at any time from about 1969 to 1980, it would have gone nuclear. Our Army damn near lost its soul in Vietnam--forget equipment troubles, PEOPLE troubles are far more important.

Re: the Golan battle--you falsely assume Israel KNEW the good news at the time. They didn't.

Re: the USSR nuking Israel--the choice would be to either nuke Israel and dare the US to do something about it (which, because of Vietnam's corrosive impact, we couldn't), or to be permanently humiliated on the world stage. One way is low-risk and pays big, the other way makes the USSR look like wusses. Which one would Chuckles Brezhnev have gone for?

Nixon didn't want to make the conversation public, because I sanitized it--do you REALLY think that a drunken, obscene tirade filled with anti-Semitic slurs would have made Tricky Dick look like a leader?

Re: being strongarmed. Guess what? If anyone has been doing ANY strongarming in the US-Israel relationship, it's the US. Israel might decisively win a war and not be nearly as dependent on Uncle Sugar for their security needs? Well, the US suddenly slams on the brakes. Make peace with deranged gun-waving lunatics? Well, the US sends over mercenary political consultants to knock off Netanyahu's party--if China did that to us, we'd be screaming here on FR about that being an act of frickin' war!

55 posted on 09/07/2001 12:49:35 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Nice to see your true colors Poo

Keep making excuses

What would have happened if Kissinger had told them to go to hell?

How could they be sure he wouldn't

How could the Russians be sure of the outcome of a use on Nukes on the part of their Arab clients? They'd lose a lot more by Nuking Israel than by taking the cause of the Arabs against a rabid nuke crazy Israel.

The subsequent opproborium suffered by Israel for the first use of Nukes would have isolated her like nothing else in her history

THAT would be the sure thing the Soviets would have went for

Nuking Israel had too many uncontrollable factors to ever be a viable option

Except in retaliation

Frankly Poo Americans like yourself make me wonder

Israel CAN DO NO WRONG in your eyes

No matter what crime they committ you somehow always bring it back to "it's the US fault"

Israel could have precipitated a third world war in 1973 and it's OK by you just as long as it turned out all right for Israel

Your thought processes are not sound, at least not for an American citizen.

Like I said, the only difference between Israel and their neighbors is Israeli women don't wear glad bags

56 posted on 09/07/2001 2:11:24 PM PDT by Qatar-6
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