[Carry_Okie]

You guys are barking up the wrong tree. There is no reforming the ESA without throwing out the Convention on Nature Protection. The treaty authority of the ESA is what give it its power. Please go back and read all of Thread 2 #61,62, &87.

[ClancyJ]

We are not able to throw out any treaty, we are not responsible for reforming the ESA. All we have to do is speak up and demand that those with the power to correct these problems do so.

Why is it necessary for me to pour over all the legal documents, learn all the EO's and find the secret answer to all our problems. That is the job of our elected officials who are getting paid to do so. They need to be hounded about these problems and we need to demand that we have fairer laws.

There should be no provision in place that allows any foreign entity to come in by one of our created Acts and usurp the power of American citizen rights and the constitution.