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TODAY IS THE DAY TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT (Feds Give Klamath Leader 72 Hours To Get To Court)
Headgates | 4 September 2001 | James L. Buchal (AKA Iconoclast2)

Posted on 09/04/2001 6:37:21 AM PDT by Neets

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To: Coyote
"and bring up the tin-foil hat chrarge..."

I don't think that there is a single "Tinfoil Hat vendor" left here that hasn't lost their credibility.

Underscore, Squid-nuts, Stinkspur, etc. get laughed off of every thread where they show up. - The time has come to simply accept that our government is a criminal enterprise, and act accordingly.
Do not allow yourself to believe that good will prevail simply because it should; - it will not unless you make it happen.

101 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: OneidaM
Heavenly Father, I pray. If it's in your will, then let Barbara Martin and her supporters speak with the voice of the Holy Spirit itself. Even if it's as quiet and gentle as running water, or the voice of a songbird, let it thunder like a pounding earthquake in the minds of those present. No matter what the court rules, let the judge, the authoritarian neo-pharasees in the safety of their temples, and the very armed guards that protect them, return home this evening trembling, unable to sleep, uncomfortable with their very own existence, worried about their shadows. Let their consciences haunt them so much, not a year's supply of Zantac will relieve the burn in their hearts. Let them fidget, and fear, and weep when no one is looking, wondering all the time, what the problem is, and why they suffer. And if they rule unfairly, unjustly, when their own final moment of life comes, in the screaming instant of that coronary crunch, let them cry out in terror for forgiveness, at the horror of what they've done to honest people with their personal and corporate public power! Amen.


102 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Coyote
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To: Coyote
AMEN!!!!!!
103 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Neets
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To: OneidaM
Is there anyone on the scene to feed updates? It's late afternoon here in the East and so far this is the only thread I've found. I would think something would have developed by now. prisoner6
104 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by prisoner6 (b_carnes@hotmail.com)
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To: Coyote
Dear Heavenly Father, we join with Coyote in his plea. Amen.
105 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: prisoner6, Everyone, CCRM, - Klamath Falls needs you!
Hey everyone. I haven't heard a word yet. A freind in Eugene, we'll call him "pundit" is there covering what's going on and should have a write up for us before long....I hope. I'm not a very patient person. I know I need to work on that.

I do know Wm. Lajuenesse with FoxNews is working on it..don't know if he made it to Eugene yet. Other than that I know of no coverage...talk radio was all reruns because of the holidays. With out them to start the vocals we're out here winging it today. Deep breath and a prayer for all of you up there in Eugene walking the walk. This was entirely too short notice. These people don't play fair. Not at all.

106 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by AuntB
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To: prisoner6
Last I heard from Issaquahking was early this morning just before they left to head up there.

Not sure how long the drive is to/from Eugene, so I don't know when I'll hear from him again.

I heard on one of the other threads, amom is on her way and has a cell phone to check in,,but haven't seen anything yet.

107 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Neets
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To: madfly
Bush is trying...

Wednesday, April 11, 2001

By JENNIFER A. DLOUHY SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON -- President Bush is asking Congress to give his administration full authority over the listing of endangered species and to block citizens from filing lawsuits to force animals and plants onto the list.

The proposal to waive parts of the Endangered Species Act, and in effect give Interior Secretary Gale Norton sole discretion over listings, is contained in Bush's $1.76 trillion budget which was unveiled Monday.

The request drew fire yesterday from a variety of environmental groups, who warned that such a measure -- combined with a 25 percent cut in endangered species funding -- would be "an invitation to extinction."

The waiver would essentially gut the 28-year-old act by shutting off one of the main ways species are listed as endangered, Defenders of Wildlife President Rodger Schlickeisen said at a briefing yesterday with the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council and other environmental advocacy groups.

In his budget plan, Bush asks Congress to overlook what Schlickeisen said is "perhaps the strongest single element of the Endangered Species Act," a section that allows citizens to sue if the Department of Interior is not moving quickly enough to list a species.

"That leaves the discretion with ... a secretary of the Interior who I point out through a long career has taken every opportunity to debunk the Endangered Species Act (and) speak against it and at one point even suggest that it was unconstitutional," Schlickeisen said.

"One doesn't have to wonder very much what's on Secretary of the Interior Norton's mind when she's thinking of making this proposal or what's on his (Bush's) mind when he's proposing it in the budget."

Source

108 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Issaquahking
Gotta get off line and fix dinner,,,keep me posted if you get back in here.....with ya in spirit of course.
109 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Neets
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To: OneidaM,Clinton's a liar,AuntB, To All cell phone report from amom
amom just called
Both Stan and Barbara's cases got 30 day continuances
so they can better prepare their cases.
Both agreeded not to go past fence at headgates.
other FReepers amom saw Isaquaking and blackie, may have been more.
about 30-40 people in courtroom.
Only media she saw was Klamath Hearld News
110 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: cell phone report from amom see post 110
see post 110
111 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Alamo-Girl,Yellow Rose of Texas,Bump in the night,Snow Bunny,cell phone report from amom see post 11
see post 110
112 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Coyote
Ahhh! That felt good. I'm so glad you've joined this discussion. Here's my pat on the back!
113 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by AuntB
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To: Jeff Head, nunya bidness,cell phone report from amom see post 110
see post 110
114 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub, amom
I'm amazed they let anyone in the courtroom. Oregon is good at keeping things "quiet". Doesn't sound like any disturbance from our earthfirst "buddies". Maybe they are wising up too...HEY! Miracles happen! Sounds like we've got some time to get this out before a hearing. That's not bad. We can do that. Everyone needs to know about this mess.

amom, bless your heart! What would we do without you??! Thanks.

115 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by AuntB
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the report. Has there been any word from the headgates?
116 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by MadameAxe
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To: AuntB
"Doesn't sound like any disturbance"

amom said only 3 pro-enviros, hobbb and 2 others she saw at headgates before.
amom enroute back home
AuntB what would we do without YOU!
117 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Only media she saw was Klamath Hearld News

What a surprise that is. </sarcasm>

118 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: cell phone report from amom see post 110
see post 110
119 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thank you 69-69 and amom. As AuntB said we have time and we can help get the Truth out. God Bless and amen to Coyote's prayer.
120 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by shotabug
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