I Have My Doubts about NATO's Survival"

Der Spiegel ^ | 28 Apr 26 | Felix Bohr

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Joschka Fischer, a titan of Germany's post-reunification foreign policy, says he finds Trump "deeply distasteful," discusses the need for a European bomb and says he never trusted Putin. DER SPIEGEL: Mr. Fischer, if you were still Germany’s foreign minister, how would you be dealing with the current U.S. administration and President Donald Trump? Fischer: I'm glad I don't have to, because I find this person deeply unpleasant. The German government has not done a bad job with him so far, and neither has NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte. They're often criticized for approaching Trump on a broad trail of slime. But in this situation, they don't have many other options. And (German Chancellor Friedrich) Merz has issued a clear refusal to participate in the Iran war – a wise decision....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: euroweenies; nato

[delta7]

Bye Bye NATO, you are no longer needed....time to handle your own Ukrainian mess you started, Trump wasn't sucked into your war.

[Steely Tom]

Being told by a German that the guy I voted for is distasteful is really kind of humorous.

[FLT-bird]

Joschke Fischer is the EPITOME of the rotten 68er generation. I remember this turd from the 1990s. Hardcore Gaia worshiper who no doubt just loves everything Merkel did from sacrificing their economy to Gaia to bringing in hordes of muslim and african military age males. Also a typical globalist cuck.

I remember him one time back in the 90s unironically telling the Israelis they needed to have more kids/that there weren’t enough Jews, etc. While the point may have been true.....uhhhh dude....you’re German. You might want to think about that statement. Maybe YOU of all people should not be saying that to Jews. Gosh....why are there as few as there are today (que Jeopardy music).

[ConservativeMind]

Sink NATO and let us all be allies, outside of that horrific entity.

No other country, save for Poland, later, cared about taking care of their own military, to the expected need of all NATO countries.

Germany and the UK are huge disappointments.

[Eccl 10:2]

“Mr. Fischer, if you were still Germany’s foreign minister, how would you be dealing with the current U.S. administration and President Donald Trump? Fischer: I’m glad I don’t have to, because I find this person deeply unpleasant.”

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Music to my ears...

[Leaning Right]

NATO is needed like coastal forts are needed to protect the US from a British invasion.

In other words, needed at one time.
Not needed now.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Thanks for the post.

I am chuckling at the humorous sentence, "But in this situation, they don't have many other options." Taken in another way and not about the old Leftie, Fischer, "they" -- the You're-a-Peein' folks on the "more Europe" EU corrupt elite -- are indeed without "many other options."

Aren't we "green" with envy? / sarc

Portrait of a "titan" and winner of the Mr. Bean Lookalike Contest ----

[SaveFerris]

Joschka Fischer looks like a gay Roger Ebert
with some Fabulous Timmy Walz nonheterosexuality

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Joschka Fischer looks like a gay Roger Ebert with some Fabulous Timmy Walz nonheterosexuality"

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[PGR88]

The USA should have never allowed NATO’s expansion to 30+ countries at the end of the Cold War

It shows how corrupt and infiltrated by “Atlanticist” agents of the EU / Davos DC was, and still is.

Bringing all of Europe, from Latvia to Montenegro into NATO was the dream of Brussels neo-marxists wanting to control the entire continent, and Davos globalists and empire-builders. And stupid USA was the money and muscle for it.

[SaveFerris]

👍👍👍 😂😂😂😏🙃🤣🤣🤣

[TexasGator]

“.time to handle your own Ukrainian mess you started”

LOL! The legendary Vlad, appointed not elected, tried to take over Ukraine in his quest to rebuild the Russian Empire.

Unfortunately, he ruined Russia.

OTOH, he has pocketed a fortune.

[adorno]

NATO, you are no longer needed

Yeah, no doubt, NATO does have its problems, and they need fixing.

time to handle your own Ukrainian mess you started,

That part is pure nonsense. NATO didn't start the invasion of Ukraine. You know perfectly well who did. Hint: it wasn't anybody in NATO or in the U.S. Extra Hint: it was Putin. Take it from there.

Trump wasn't sucked into your war.

In certain ways, the U.S. is involved with the Ukraine war, and if NATO is also involved, so is the U.S., like it or not.

But, unfortunately for Putin and YOU, with European help, Ukraine is actually WINNING the war. Ukraine now has a LOT OF CARDS, contrary to Vance's ignorant arguments against Zelensky in the White House.

[adorno]

Bringing all of Europe, from Latvia to Montenegro into NATO

Mistake to some, but a defensive measure that has stopped Russia from being aggressive and invasive. That's a major plus for the Europeans and even for the U.S. The only ones angry about NATO expansion are the Russians, and the Russian apologists and supporters.

[PGR88]

Mistake to some, but a defensive measure that has stopped Russia from being aggressive and invasive.

Always the same silly and failed reductionist argument

Must have 30+ member NATO....because Russia bad!

Must spy on Candidate Trump...because Russia bad!

Must allow migrant invasion of Europe....because Russia bad!

[PGR88]

By the way - what is Brussels and USAID paying you?

You always appear on the same topic, with the same automatic responses.

[adorno]

Always the same silly and failed reductionist argument

Yet, factual arguments and you can't handle the truth. "Failed and silly" from you means the exact opposite in the real world.

Must have 30+ member NATO....because Russia bad!

The more the merrier and a much bigger deterrence. Bet you can't stand it that Russia is now, neutered.

Must spy on Candidate Trump...because Russia bad!

Making 'chit' up again?

Russia bad is the TRUTH. But, Trump is my candidate, even if he is wrong about Ukraine and about negotiations. I love what he's done to Iran, which as you know, Russia hates. Are you still favoring Russia's position in regards to Iran?

Must allow migrant invasion of Europe

Again, making 'chit' up. You are so full of 'chit'.

Migrants did not invade Europe and Europe needs to get their 'chit' together and stop the Muslim hordes from entering.

because Russia bad!

Every once in a very long while, you do say something right. Putin bad too, but he doesn't appreciate you saying so. I'm sure he thought you were best buds with him.

[adorno]

By the way - what is Brussels and USAID paying you?

You always appear on the same topic, with the same automatic responses.

I get ZERO payments. But, I do get paid thru the knowledge of seeing Ukraine WINNING the war. It's called, 'satisfaction' of seeing the BAD GUYS getting their asses kicked.

Also, when the topic is the same, I'll have to post the same correct answers I've posted in the past. Why change when I'm doing the right thing and posting against the evil in the world.

On the other hand, how much is Putin paying YOU? He has been paying huge bribes for soldier of fortunes to send to the war, so, I wouldn't put it above him to also be paying dopes in forums and social media to sell his idiotic invasion of Ukraine.