[nathanbedford]

We just experienced one of the great climbdowns in American diplomatic history.

Trump had threatened to invade Greenland and expropriate it by force. Five European nations countered by placing a tripwire in Greenland making it politically impossible for Trump to invade.

There were many in this forum who scoffed, saying that such a weak force could not withstand American power. They, like Trump, misconceived the art of negotiation.

These Freepers missed the whole point, the tripwire was not placed to win a war, it was put in Greenland to deter a war and render it politically untenable for Trump to proceed negotiating based on threatening a takeover by force.

Having been checked by European tripwire, Trump abandoned his threats of invasion and countered by threatening to impose tariffs if Europe did not bend to his will and give him Greenland. Again, Trump miscalculated, Europe stood fast and Trump had to go before the world and climb down.

In the end, the US, in effect, was reduced to begging Europe to give it Greenland because those Europeans have been naughty while he has been good. If they don't give Trump Greenland, he said, he "will remember" -a passive aggressive threat that has no more to it than a vain attempt to save face.

The world can breathe a little easier; Trump's ham-fisted negotiating might yet not actually destroy NATO. Many on this forum simply cannot accept that we dodged a bullet.

[JerseyDvl]

Lol, nice try. Nobody fears the Euroweenies. It appears snowflakes overreacted to the art of the deal.... again.
Those who deployed forces look like chicken little morons today.
Preparing for the next great anti-Trump conspiracy that will launch tomorrow. Enjoy the TDS.

[Old West Conservative]

Hey Nathan!

Where is, repeat, where is your TDS medicine?

THE WORLD WONDERS (this usage isn’t padding, BTW)

[Alas Babylon!]

Historically, the USA has been trying to acquire Greenland for the past century. So Trump’s try is not unique in this case, nor is the refusal to sell or allow possession unique.

If we were the monster many European’s (or Leftists) contend we are, or even if we’re a monster because Trump is in charge, we would and could have just taken it, but we did not. That was never on the table. Yeah, yeah, Trump said he could, but he did not do anything to impose that.

The idea that Trump would take it by force was simply not true. No one fair minded thought he would do so. Only the most ardent TDS sufferers, or most sycophantic, did.

Trump was elected by the American people, and even during the election past, people knew his stance on Greenland. If Americans were so against Trump on this issue we would be talking about President Harris.

[hcmama]

"We just experienced one of the great climbdowns in American diplomatic history."

Bloomberg is reporting that the EU has indefinitely suspended approval for the trade deal with the US.

Also, Trump seems to be having a hard time distinguishing between Iceland and Greenland in his speech

[lp boonie]

Nathanbedford you win! Dumbest post of the thread. You now move forward to the dumbest post of the day competition. Early projections have you winning that one as well.

[wardaddy]

I would like to see Europe or Denmark agree to USA military dominance or responsibility over Greenland and a lions share of resource exploitation
It simply makes sense in many ways and it’s a big pie for everyone including the inhabitants
And I’m a 95% Trump guy and have been forever

But I can’t disagree with your appraisal

It doesn’t look like a win

Nobody outside nuts ever believed Trump would send our forces to take Greenland forcibly from people who are historically allies in many ways

Lots of kabuki and in the end just asking for it

I suppose there are a lot of negotiations going on about what price is enough and how to structure something that everyone saves face

But the bluster doesn’t seem to have worked this time

I could be wrong

[Az Joe]

You’re a f’n idiot. Trump never said he was going to invade Greenland. You made that up.

[mbrfl]

With all due respect, Nathan, you are oblivious to what you just witnessed. You just observed Trump closing the deal he always intended to make. Do you think invading Greenland was Trump’s ultimate objective or do you think acquiring Greenland was? I doubt Trump was ever serious about invading to begin with, but even if he was, it was only as a means to an end. If he can achieve that end through negotiations instead, then all the better.

Trump is going to get exactly what he wanted. Any objective observer would call that a victory. Yet you have no idea how and why it happened. Is it just possible that talk of invasion was Trump’s way of getting Europe’s attention and perhaps putting a bit of fear into their minds so that they would be all to eager to negotiate a deal once he took invasion off the table? Of course it is.