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Posted on 11/25/2025 6:45:48 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
A U.S. official told CBS News on Tuesday that Ukraine's government had "agreed to a peace deal" brokered by the Trump administration to stop Russia's nearly four-year assault. The American official and Ukraine's national security adviser Rustem Umerov said a common understanding on a proposal had been reached, with details still to be worked out.
Umerov voiced optimism that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy could travel to Washington before the end of November to finalize an agreement. CBS News was first to report on Sunday that U.S. and Ukrainian officials had previously discussed a potential visit to the U.S. this week by Zelenskyy.
"The Ukrainians have agreed to the peace deal," the U.S. official told CBS News. "There are some minor details to be sorted out but they have agreed to a peace deal."
The news came as U.S. Army Secretary Dan Driscoll was in Abu Dhabi to meet with Russian officials, two U.S. officials and two diplomatic sources who were not authorized to speak publicly told CBS News. A fifth source with knowledge of the talks also confirmed Driscoll's presence in the capital of the United Arab Emirates.
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“A U.S. official told CBS News on Tuesday that Ukraine’s government had “agreed to a peace deal” brokered by the Trump administration”
Doesn’t matter, the deal is so ONE-SIDED that there is no way that Russia will accept it in any form unless all the Neocon additions are removed, for starters.
So we go back to the war, except with Russia accelerating its advances and likely rolling into Odessa sooner than later.
Minor details is how they stall this sh*t for decades.
As long as the changes from Geneva aren’t too bad, I think the Russians will agree. As far as Odessa, I have a lot of sympathy for the people there who are going to continue to be stuck under Ukrainian governance. They deserved the opportunity to return to Russian governance.
Hahaha you are complaining that the deal is too tough on Russia. Incredible bizarre reaction.
Like you even have the slightest idea what the actual deal is.
Hilarious. The poor people stuck in a free country rather than under murderer Putin.
“Like you even have the slightest idea what the actual deal is.”
Anyone can read the 28-point Neocon Plan, and its only gotten worse since then, as there hasn’t been any more Russian input to it, as far as I know.
So it’s dead.
“As long as the changes from Geneva aren’t too bad, I think the Russians will agree.”
That would have been true IF the plan still resembled what Witkoff and Dmitriev had agreed to, as Witkoff had taken the time to fully understand the root causes of the war.
But since then, it appears that Rubio (i.e., NEOCON CENTRAL) got his dirty hands on it, and basically destroyed it...and then anything in Geneva just makes it worse, as that’s the Europeans destroying it.
So, DOA.
If Ukraine agrees then Putin will move the goalposts further out until Ukraine disagrees. The point is to keep the war going.
I thought from the beginning Odessa was at the top of the objectives. I would be a bit surprised if Russia agrees to settle without it.
“If Ukraine agrees then Putin will move the goalposts further out until Ukraine disagrees. The point is to keep the war going.”
The goalposts ALREADY ARE much further out, it’s just that the Neocons refuse to accept that simple fact.
“I thought from the beginning Odessa was at the top of the objectives. I would be a bit surprised if Russia agrees to settle without it.”
I also think Odessa is the big prize, but Russia was ready to settle without it in June 2024. But as we all know, the Neocons and Europeans DID NOT want to settle, so they ignored the Russian proposal, totally ignored it.
“DOA”
Certain.
The deal was to be signed by Thursday in its original form.
It was a framework so there could conceivably be details, like for example on what day Euroclear sends the Russian assets to JP Morgan for distribution to Bechtel after they win the reconstruction contracts.
And on what specific day the Russian sanctions are reversed.
Point being, “details” do not have to mean the undoing of the deal’s specifics.
If this morning’s story about Ukraine acceptance proves to be actually true rather than more media manufacture there is no need for a Zelensky trip to Washington to sign anything in final form. That is suspicious.
Not real pleased that active duty military are negotiating anything with Russian foreign ministry people. That is a State activity. Not military.
“The deal was to be signed by Thursday in its original form.”
What is its “original form”? I have to assume it’s the Neocon version, so Russia won’t be signing (since it basically calls for their capitulation), and so what Ukraine does won’t matter.
I have heard no indication that the Witkoff/Dmitriev product has been changed. That is the original form.
That is what gets signed.
It does contain an enormous Russian concession. Russia in that form does not insist on a pro Russia Kiev government. This is a far greater concession than any of the territory cedes, because eventual military victory would give them that government.
Brian up above does not have the nuclear power plant correct. My understanding is it will continue to be held by Russia and will operate under US supervision, with power output shared 50/50 with Ukraine and Russia.
It also is not fueled by PU239. It is U235, like nearly all. There is plutonium to be found as byproduct of fission in spent fuel rods, which are stored on site, as they are with nearly all nuclear power plants in the entire world. Which means the other nuclear power plants in Ukraine, in the western part of Ukraine, have spent fuel rods stored on site already. So this is just not a well thought out concern. Extracting PU239 from spent rods is very difficult and if they want to do it, they don’t need the power plant in question to do it, they have other reactors and could be doing “it” already.
No word from Russia = it’s all Kabuki theater
That’s not agreeing, that’s negotiating. But at least they’ve gotten that far. NATO/Ukraine has to surrender while pretending it “made a deal”.
“I have heard no indication that the Witkoff/Dmitriev product has been changed. That is the original form.”
I’d be SHOCKED if the Russians would agree to tying up half (or more) of their military at Ukraine’s border, which would be required if Ukraine’s military was really going to be 600,000 men (and yes, if the agreement says 600,000 mdn, then the Neocons and Europeans will be sure that Ukraine’s military IS 600,000 men).
Beyond that, no troops under the NATO flag in Ukraine, but troops allowed under other flags, such as UK (if they can find any), France, the US. Again, that will shock me.
The above is from the released 28-Point Plan, which no one has disputed as being the working document...so if people think Russia will agree to that, sorry, but no way.
“If Ukraine agrees then Putin will move the goalposts further out until Ukraine disagrees. The point is to keep the war going.”
Russia insists on not leaving a situation where the war can restart. Ukraine must be demilitarized.
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