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Getting harder to get to 270: Observe the numbers of moving vans leaving blue zones and going to red states
American Thinker ^ | 10/02/2025 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 10/02/2025 6:50:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

All this talk about redrawing congressional districts overlooks the big picture. In other words, the census will end up doing in 2030 what some GOP state legislatures are trying to do before 2026. This is from Tom Rogers:

Much has been written about the various attempts to create more Republican House districts through extreme gerrymandering. This column recently discussed a pending Supreme Court case that could strike down the Voting Rights Act’s remedy of creating majority-minority districts and result in the creation of even more Republican House seats.

However, none of these actions affect presidential elections, which are decided in the Electoral College. Electoral College votes reflect the total number of House seats a state has, as determined by the census, conducted every ten years. The next census, which will take place in 2030, will award some states more House seats and take away House seats from others, based on the gains and losses of the population of each state.

So the 2028 presidential election will not be affected by any new census count, but the 2032 presidential election will. Based on a close look at population trends, the upcoming census will not bring good news for the Democrats. 

Not bring good news indeed. Getting to 218 in the U.S. House or 270 in The Electoral College is going to be hard for Democrats.

It's the numbers, stupid. Or more specifically, the numbers of moving vans leaving blue zones and going to red states.

The usual suspects will lose congressional seats the next time around. They are California, New York, and Illinois. The same will be gaining seats, such as Texas, Florida, and South Carolina. What's the result of these losses and gains? The losses are blue and the gains are red.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bluestates; exodus; migration; redstates
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1 posted on 10/02/2025 6:50:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: The losses are blue and the gains are red.

The all important question is this — WHO are the ones leaving the blue states for the red states?

Are those migrating out of blue states conservatives or liberals?

If it’s the later, I don’t see how this is a gain for conservatives. The trend will only make the red states bluer.


2 posted on 10/02/2025 6:52:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as those that those moving from blue to red vote red. Otherwise, it’s the same Californication that happened to many western states.


3 posted on 10/02/2025 6:53:54 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

Where I live liberals are moving to flee from the crime of the city across the river, they created. Don’t bring your politics with you.


4 posted on 10/02/2025 6:54:03 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SeekAndFind
I don’t see how this is a gain for conservatives. The trend will only make the red states bluer.

What happened to Florida?

5 posted on 10/02/2025 6:54:16 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly


6 posted on 10/02/2025 6:54:16 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually a couple states split their vote based on districts voting. So this could impact the Presidential races too.


7 posted on 10/02/2025 6:56:39 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (ui)
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To: SeekAndFind
"In the 2024 race, if Kamala Harris had been able to win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, she would have won the presidency with an Electoral College victory of 270 to 268. However, the Esri study suggests that in 2032 even if the Democrats were to win those three swing states the Republicans would end up with a 16-vote Electoral College margin of 277 to 261. That is a major change in Electoral College math."

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-electoral-college-math-getting-harder-opinion-10800308

8 posted on 10/02/2025 6:57:02 AM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep in mind if GOP controls the Presidency in 2030 they get to choose to not count illegals. That will be the biggest impact. Cali will lose a ton of seats!


9 posted on 10/02/2025 6:57:42 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (ui)
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To: SeekAndFind

Check out the budgets for all 50 states.

What we have are likely 50 MAGA red states governed by 50 Deep State controlled state governments.

Don’t believe me?

Look. At. The. Budgets.

Especially the outyears.

Deep State has to steal elections in the so-called blue states for very good reason.


10 posted on 10/02/2025 6:58:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)
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To: SeekAndFind
Now add in:

1) if the blatantly rigged 2020 census get fixed....or they are not able to massive rig it again by deliberately undercounting multiple red states yet again in 2030.

2) if illegal aliens are not counted in the census...this was not fully adjudicated by the SCOTUS last time. If they rule that illegals cannot be counted, blue states will lose a whole bunch of reps and electoral votes and federal dollars right there

3) the Baby Boom generation from which Democrats draw a large amount of their support is going to be little more than half its current size in 10 years based on the actuarial tables. They are currently 60-80.

then there are millions of Leftugees fleeing blue states for red states in addition to all the above. This is why Democrats are so desperate to import tens of millions of new voters.

11 posted on 10/02/2025 6:58:31 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure how much comfort we can take from this. Virginia, North Carolian, Georgia and Arizona used to be reliably Red. Then the moving vans from Blue states started moving in. Is going to be a battle. Florida is the right example of how to keep a state Red as the Blue moving vans come in.


12 posted on 10/02/2025 6:59:39 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

COVID, and Governor DeSantis’ response to it.


13 posted on 10/02/2025 6:59:43 AM PDT by AF_Blue ("America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad ass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since the census is conducted by the Supreme Court, I expect they’ll continue to count everyone inside the gates. /s


14 posted on 10/02/2025 6:59:44 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: kosciusko51

“As long as those that those moving from blue to red vote red. Otherwise, it’s the same Californication that happened to many western states.”

Liberals are vile, non thinking creatures. They will infest, then overrun the red states in a strident effort to turn them blue, because it’s the “virtuous” thing to do.


15 posted on 10/02/2025 7:01:00 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: SeekAndFind
So the 2028 presidential election will not be affected by any new census count, but the 2032 presidential election will.

Do the census sooner.

16 posted on 10/02/2025 7:02:44 AM PDT by FreeReign
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RE: The losses are blue and the gains are red. The all important question is this — WHO are the ones leaving the blue states for the red states? Are those migrating out of blue states conservatives or liberals? If it’s the later, I don’t see how this is a gain for conservatives. The trend will only make the red states bluer.

It used to be mostly Democrats moving to red states and turning them blue.....Think of all those Californians who moved to Portland and Seattle and Denver and turned Oregon, Washington and Colorado blue and almost turned Arizona blue....think of all the New Yorkers and New Jerseyites who almost tipped Florida blue.

That is over now. The trend in recent years has been in the opposite direction. More Conservatives have been giving up on places like California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, etc. They've played a huge part it turning Florida back very firmly to red and they look like they came just in time to save Arizona before it tipped blue. The same process appears to be helping with Nevada turning it more and more red. It may tip back to red soon. A lot of Conservative Californians played a big part in returning Ted Cruz to the Senate over fake Mexican/drunk driving Irish Bob who was backed by big money from California and New York.

17 posted on 10/02/2025 7:03:33 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s the problem, the people leaving their overly expensive state because it’s too expendive move somewhere else and vote to make their new home overly expensive. Partly why wherever I move to from NJ I somewhat fear that feeling of not being too welcome.


18 posted on 10/02/2025 7:03:55 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: MinorityRepublican

South Carolina and Texas are also more conservative, not less.


19 posted on 10/02/2025 7:04:28 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: SeekAndFind

Next generation imigrants have been educated and many are tradesmen that heavily lean GOP.Every tradesman I’ve ever hired sets up his conservative radio show before beginning work. They have college educated children and understand the ghetto plantation and avoid it.


20 posted on 10/02/2025 7:04:56 AM PDT by cnsmom
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