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To: PGR88
You're wrong.

Stepan Bandera is considered Ukraine's modern-day founder and is as revered as George Washington or any of our Founders are in this country.

13 posted on 10/01/2025 10:40:28 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
You're wrong. Stepan Bandera is considered Ukraine's modern-day founder and is as revered as George Washington or any of our Founders are in this country.

Sorry, you're wrong

Bandera is an idol of nationalists from Western Ukraine / Galicia, who had their roots and first taste of power with the Western Ukrainian Republic after WWI. They had a war with Poland which was also the root of their animosity towards the Poles, particularly in WWII.

Bandera (to the extent he was religious) and his Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists were Greek Catholic and emphasized Ukraine dialect, in opposition to Orthodox and Russian speakers who controlled the culture from Kiev and Odessa east. Bandera is certainly nobody's "hero" in those places.

What is really shows is how Ukraine was never really a nation, being a fragmented collection of ethnicities which fell off pre-WWI empires of Austro-Hungrary, Poland, Russia and then the Soviet Union.

And such environments are prefect for foreign intel agencies to promote and train specific, radical/ideological groups to lead among the chaos.

17 posted on 10/01/2025 11:01:49 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kazan
Stepan Bandera is considered Ukraine's modern-day founder and is as revered as George Washington or any of our Founders are in this country.

See? I knew it.. This discussion was opened by you for the sole purpose of demonizing Ukraine. Bandera may have been part of Ukraine's history, but he's not there anymore and he doesn't matter and nobody cares what he was up to in the past.

FACT is that, Putin has done a lot more damage to Ukraine than Bandera or anybody in history. Why not go after Putin?
22 posted on 10/01/2025 12:25:53 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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