He doesn't look like Ukraine is winning.
Posted on 09/27/2025 5:29:32 PM PDT by McGruff
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov used his address to the United Nations General Assembly (UGNA) on Saturday to deliver one of Moscow’s starkest warnings yet to the West, accusing NATO and the European Union of waging a "real war" against Russia.
He singled out claims by European leaders as "false portrayals" of Moscow’s intentions, echoing President Vladimir Putin’s denials that Russia plans to strike NATO or EU territory. At the same time, Lavrov issued a direct threat: "Any aggression against my country will be met with a decisive response. There should be no doubt about this among those in NATO and the EU."
The timing also intersects with a shift in U.S. rhetoric. President Donald Trump, who met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy earlier this week, has hardened his tone on the war – telling reporters that Ukraine can and should reclaim all its territory.
That marks a departure from earlier signals of openness to negotiation, more than a month after U.S. and Russian officials held rare talks in Alaska. Lavrov’s UN address seemed calibrated to counter Trump’s new line, reminding Washington that Moscow sees the war not as a distant conflict but as a direct confrontation involving the United States.
He dismissed Trump’s earlier remark that Russia was a "paper tiger," noting that the president had already walked it back.
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As Trump said Russia is a paper Tiger I doubt anyone in NATO cares.
As Lavrov said, Trump already walked the ‘paper tiger’ comment back.
He doesn't look like Ukraine is winning.
He’s still in Kiev after more than 3 1/2 years of assaults by the world’s “second” army, and he’s whacking more Russian oil refineries every day.
Lavrov is the only legendary diplomat left, no country today can field anyone even close.
It seems to me as if the leadership of formerly white Christian Europe wants a war so they can kill off millions of white people. We all know there is no way in hell invading Muslims and Africans are going to be sent to the front.
Lavrov is intelligent and capable — but also a sleazy crook in the Soviet style, running his country’s foreign policy as a system of rackets that profit its leaders while injuring Russia’s fundamental interests.
to quote a fictional character: i’ve got a very bad feeling about this.
“”””We all know there is no way in hell invading Muslims and Africans are going to be sent to the front.””””
Russia is using them in great numbers.
LOL, that wasn’t walking it back, that was making it clear that he is describing them as a paper tiger.
I’m never going to call someone a ..........but let me describe one as this.........as I describe that someone.
Don’t care. Europe’s problem.
to quote a fictional character: i’ve got a very bad feeling about this.
______________________
You are not alone.
I have nothing against the Russian people.
I’m a cold war “soldier” I made sure nuclear
armed aircraft could strike.I was climbing
over Nukes on B-52s at age 19.
But this Russian war, by my now more mature
life view is this.
They are sacrificing their working age
men for what?
The smart ones got out early and they
can’t go back.
Europe and wherever got some of Russia’s best
and brightest.
Those remaining are being killed at
alarming rates for what,
a few square Kilometers of territory
per day?
For what purpose?
Modern War is normally waged for Monetary gains.
In this Russian war case, how will they
ever make up for the loss of their young men,
monetarily?
Russia and Ukraine will be forever altered.
For the worst.
Bright side of it for Americans.
Nukes need maintenance and Russians aren’t doing it.
So that threat is lessened.
“Russia is in the late stages of a multi-decade-long modernization program to replace all of its Soviet-era nuclear-capable systems with newer versions.”
https://thebulletin.org/premium/2025-05/russian-nuclear-weapons-2025/
Good analysis. Cold war soldier here also.
Leaving the Zelensky stuff aside, the Ukrainian population will hate the Russians for probably more than a generation. It's not their fault but they pay a huge price for it on a weekly basis........ and our pro-Russian freepers dance with joy and make every excuse in the book.
It's not so funny when it happens to you.
Agree on Lavrov’s status. I remember seeing a news story, “Lavrov shunned at global conference”. The photos showed 2 huge rooms, packed with those wanting to shake his hand.
I have followed his SM accounts for years.
“1 May 2021”
“Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones destroyed 114 Armenian tanks, i.e. more than three battalions, 43 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 141 artillery installation and MLRS, as well as a bunch of other military equipment of the Armenian army, and this is only in 24 days. The military conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia lasted 44 days”
“Even loitering ammunition purchased from Israel hit fewer armored vehicles than Turkish drones.”
“It is possible that this infographic is actually part of an information war, which was supposed to show Armenia that Azerbaijan is armed with “the most reliable attack drone” capable of destroying a bunch of enemy weapons without losing a single UAV.”
Moscow Times [10/27/2021]
The neighboring separatist-held Luhansk People’s Republic accused Kiev of using the Bayraktar in violation of ceasefire agreements that ban the deployment of foreign drones on the front line.
The Kremlin said Wednesday that Turkey’s supply of drones to Ukraine risks destabilizing the eastern Ukraine conflict
The Ukrainian army has been locked in a long-running conflict with separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014 after Moscow annexed the peninsula of Crimea from Kiev. The conflict has claimed more than 13,000 lives.
Ukraine and its Western allies accuse Russia of sending troops and arms to support the separatists, which Moscow denies.
Warsaw Institute [27 October 2021]
“The Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 combat drone has been deployed at Donbas by the Ukrainian Joint Forces Operation for the first time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces said in a statement. The drone targeted the positions of pro-Russian insurgents on October 26. The incident has been met with criticism from Moscow.”
“The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces stated that the unmanned aerial vehicle was used to attack a battery of howitzers that fired Ukrainian positions in Hranitne on the southern part of the line of contact. One Ukrainian soldier was killed and the other was wounded. Despite calls for a ceasefire from the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine, “Russian-terrorist” forces did not stop the fire. The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ordered the drone strike to “force the ceasefire.”
“The Ukrainian Joint Forces Operation said on October 26 that separatists made thirteen breaches to the ceasefire”
https://warsawinstitute.org/ukraine-uses-bayraktar-tb2-first-time-donbas/
New York Times [Nov. 15, 2021]
How a Dispute Over Groceries Led to Artillery Strikes in Ukraine
Deployed for the first time in combat by Ukraine and provided by a country that is a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the drone hit a howitzer operated by the separatists. Things quickly escalated.
Across the border, Russia scrambled jets. The next day, Russian tanks mounted on rail cars rumbled toward the Ukrainian border.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin.html
BBC [26 November 2021]
they see the Kremlin sending a message that it’s ready to defend its “red lines” on Ukraine: above all, that it must not join Nato.
“I think for Putin it’s really important. He thinks the West has begun giving Ukraine’s elite hope about joining Nato,” political analyst Tatiana Stanovaya at R.Politik told the BBC.
“The training, the weapons and so on are like a red rag to a bull for Putin and he thinks if he doesn’t act today, then tomorrow there will be Nato bases in Ukraine. He needs to put a stop to that.”
Ukraine’s desire to join the security bloc is nothing new, nor is Russia’s insistence on vetoing that ambition in what it sees as its own “back yard”.
But Moscow has been rattled recently by the Ukrainian military using Turkish drones against Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine; the flight near Crimea of two nuclear-capable US bombers was an extra irritant.
“At a meeting between Putin and Biden, neither will give clear commitments but there may be some tacit understanding on how far the US is ready to go in increasing its military support to Ukraine,” Mr Kortunov argues. “That’s not impossible.”
“Whilst Putin has a flicker of hope that he can do a deal with Biden, he won’t take any rash steps. But if he thinks it’s all doomed, he could do the worst things we can imagine,” Tatiana Stanovaya warns.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59415885
Guardian [December 16, 2021]
“With tensions escalating along the border with Russia, Luke Harding visits troops in Ukraine’s Donbas region to gauge the mood ahead of a possible invasion. The war here has continued since 2014, when pro-Russian separatists seized Ukrainian cities.”
There’s a video I didn’t watch:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2021/dec/16/on-the-ukraine-frontline-only-the-dead-arent-afraid-video
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