'No one retreating anywhere': Intel intercepts Russian commander ordering fire on his own men

RBC Ukraine (via msn.com) ^ | September 26, 2025 | Kateryna Shkarlat

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

War stinks.

[Dr. Franklin]

To quote Joe Paterno, “If you don’t beat yourself, there’s only one team that can beat you.”

[dfwgator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Mvs5Ic8us

[xp38]

Especially if your own side is firing on you. That said this happened during WWII too so it’s a Russian tradition.

[HombreSecreto]

Was it one of those prison units?

If so, appears standard Russian doctrine?

[HombreSecreto]

Thinking the same.

[desertsolitaire]

Only in prison units?

[KamperKen]

Ukrainian propaganda.

[pissant]

Both sides have been lying their asses off since this whole time. Truth is always the first casualty

[HombreSecreto]

Perhaps not.

If my history is correct, Russians would use penal units to wear down German defenses.

Russia might just be doing the same.

[adorno]

War stinks.

Yeah, but mostly, war kills.

[adorno]

Ukrainian propaganda.

Sure thing. If it's a negative story that makes the Russians look bad, it must be Ukrainian propaganda.

Those million+ Russian casualties? Ukrainian propaganda.

Got it.

[fireman15]

If the Russians are killing their own troops... there is no justification for sending the Ukrainians $Billions more to do the same thing.

[ealgeone]

Ruskies did the same in WW2.

[adorno]

Truth is always the first casualty

But, it's only a casualty if you believe that your version of the truth is the casualty.

[Vermont Lt]

I guess it’s easier to shoot your own troops; you know where they are.

[adorno]

If the Russians are killing their own troops... there is no justification for sending the Ukrainians $Billions more to do the same thing.

Good strategy.

Would the Russians be killing themselves if the Ukrainians didn't resist the invasion?

Methinks that those being killed by their own soldiers, are those that are not willing to die in the fight and would prefer to surrende. What's your alternate belief?

[DIRTYSECRET]

Reminds me of “The Big Red One”. Lee Marvin. A French officer would not fire on Americans. The General shot him. The other troops shot the general and an English-speaking French officer got on the loud speaker to tell his people to give up snd welcome the Americans. I do believe many are confronted with this dilemma in war zones. Anyone remember fragging?

Dr. Zhivago. Replacements met up with the quitters and were told not to go there. Classic.

[grobdriver]

Well I believe there IS historical (Russian) precedent for this...

[AnotherUnixGeek]

Words can’t describe how little I care about these two nations or their war. I hate the fact that it has cost us billions of dollars and is affecting our relationships with other nations that matter far more to us than either Russia or Ukraine (namely, China and India).