Posted on 09/11/2025 4:03:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
The folks at EnergySage took some time to debunk several major myths about going solar.
The scoop One of the big myths they addressed was that solar panels don't work in the winter.
"Despite the snowstorms and shorter days, solar panels will still generate enough power in the winter to provide savings on your electricity bill," according to an article published on EnergySage's website. "And if your panels do get covered in snow, they won't be for long. The smooth surface and angled orientation means any accumulated snow typically slides off once the sun comes out."
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The Zohar states that no lie can last without some basis in truth. And in truth, solar energy is the wave of the future, but not those stupid solar panels. There is unfiltered, virtually limitless solar energy in outer space, and now that wires are becoming obsolete, and electricity can be transmitted via focused photons (i.e., laser beams) from the moon or from bases on asteroids down to earth or to space ships on the move, and there converted to electricity, the sky is literally the limit for solar energy. No snow. No seasonal changes sunlight. It's just out there waiting to be harvested.
Sorry these dumbasses are still fixated on yester-century's technology.
They are desperate to stay relevant.
Solar has its place, but not as they promoted it (and certainly not as a replacement for primary, flexible power sources). [Stating the obvious in present company.]
Yup, the sun is cheap , limitless fusion power hiding in plain sight.
Not going to happen in our lifetime unfortunately
Based on the assumption that the government will subsidize the initial cost of material and installation. I have no problem with rooftop solar, if the homeowner is willing to pay for it himself.
accumulated snow typically slides off once the sun comes out.
So he admits the Sun is responsible for heating the earth......
It’s in near universal use in Israel for heating water. But there isn’t much land here for solar farms or wind farms, and what there is is needed for growing food and grazing beasts and housing. So if it doesn’t fit on the roof, forget about it.
When technology matures buy into it, but not before. Windmills are inefficient all the way through both the manufacturing cycle and throughout the life-cycle of the equipment set. Same for 1st generation solar panels. Hailstones and high winds can take down a solar farm, replacement costs offset any gains. New ideas are coming on line and look very promising. I doubt if I will ever employ any tech beyond a solar battery charger.
will still generate enough power in the winter to provide savings on your electricity bill,
5 cents? So useless over the winter?
Oh yea, debunked with facts and ligic
“So if it doesn’t fit on the roof, forget about it.”
Providing the shingles are refreshed first... two houses on my street have solar panels both need new shingles as the install was performed about 15 years into a set if 25 year old shingles.
What’s the net total cost per KWH of those bad boys, over the lifetime, compared to a combined cycle gas-fired power plant? I bet it’s 10 times the cost, especially when you factor in that you need power even when the sun isn’t shining.
The quote, “can save you money on your electric bill” is very misleading. If you spend, say, $10,000 on a solar array that saves you $5-10 a month, it will never pay for itself. It will fail before it ever pays for itself. Add in maintenance costs, cleaning, etc., and that cost is even higher.
And this is even with the cost being heavily subsidized by the federal government (the taxpayers), which I hope ends soon.
I see sites quoting cost per watt. A watt is a measure of potential energy, but actual usage is watts over time, thus kilowatt hours. Show me a complete system that can supply the 600-2000 kWh/month that a typical home uses, and I’ll show you something that costs many times more than what a legitimate power plant source costs.
Solar has its use - in places where there is no grid, or very expensive grid power such as in remote areas of Alaska - maybe even Hawaii where the fuel for generation is very expensive and has to be imported. As a backup and as a supplemental supply, perhaps. But as the primary or only source for a home, it is expensive.
Also keep in mind, the lithium batteries used to store that energy for night-time use are both expensive and not very environmentally friendly.
It’s not just snow.
Dust accumulation is an issue, too.
And have you noticed that you never see anyone out in those solar farms cleaning the panels...
You can shove your solar panels and wind mills up your arse!
Wow...
Just took a quick look at a few papers...
Loss of efficiency due to dust accumulation can range up as high as 50% depending on various factors.
What a scam.
Generally speaking. Only a small percentage of houses make the investment qualified for best efficiency due to location/geography, orientation, pitch and, of course, latitude. And that's ignoring all of the problems associated with rooftop installations.
There are laughable examples of wasteful residential installations visible from the roadway in every city.
Solar produces at rated levels from 10am to 4pm on average. Yes it is cheaper during those 6 hours.
But for 24 hour power you need 4 plants and 18 hours worth batteries. That makes it VERY expensive.
Expensive, inefficient, ruins arable land, landill and recycling issues, weather issues,and then there’re the grid integration issues.
Solar on this scale is a scam.
Hot water solar and Photovoltaic for electricity are 2 different things.
“Windmills are inefficient all the way through both the manufacturing cycle...”
Do small research on how much concrete is used for the bases and especially the offshore ones. The left has been on a rampage and especially on plant food, aka CO2 being only 4 parts in a hundred, and this is only a single percent.
You will throw up in your throat from the hypocrisy so make sure you’re not eating.
It is impossible for a solar panel to generate enough electricity to overcome the energy needed to create it.
In other words, they never can pay for themselves.
Solar is only great when primary power is unavailable or out.
Don't get solar like I did without first doing tons of homework. But if you do your homework, do your math, look up your local regulations, spend at least as much time on common sense energy improvements to your house, then you might find you're in a situation where solar pays for itself. I took out a loan (HELOC) to pay for those energy improvements to my home as well as a small solar system to test it for a year. After a year's worth of telemetry I crunched the numbers further and added onto the solar (plus inverter capacity plus battery storage).
End result? Last year I pulled 4,386 kWh from the grid for my all-electric, 2,300 sq ft home, including charging our EV for 18K miles (just home charged miles). This is out of the 22,374 kWh I consumed. Thus I had to pull 20% of my power from the grid, with solar saving me 80% of it. And my HELOC payment + small power bill (avg $65/month) + other costs that come with an EV that gas cars don't have...total way less than the larger power bill + natural gas bill + gasoline at the pump for those 18K miles.
But that's not a one-size-fits-all solution to high energy prices. And even if you're in a good solution for solar, you must do your homework to make sure you're doing specific amounts for your particular energy consumption needs. For it to be feasible it requires a bit of project engineering level of commitment. (Enough of each component to take advantage of the economies of scale, but not so much you're fighting the law of diminishing returns.)
But don't poo poo on it altogether. In my case the entire energy project has saved my cash flow a total of $7,700 since I started it in 2021, with most of the savings in the past 3 years after I did the solar upgrade in 2022 and replaced my wife's old gas crossover with the EV crossover. All while my HELOC loan is slowly being paid down. In the energy/transportation segment of my budget, it feels like it's still year 2019 (last year of Trump before covid distorted energy prices). It's like the years of Biden energy inflation didn't happen. This is only because of solar as I use it is decentralized. Meaning no bureaucrat regulates it. The only two regulators are God providing the sun, and me regulating what happens with that solar energy after that.
Winter: Most of the power I pull from the grid is during the 4 wintery weather months of November - February (in Alabama). Using 2024's numbers: in January 44% of my power was homemade, February 62%, November 63%, and December 56%. The other 8 months ranged from 85% to 99%. In the 98% and 99% months of free power, the 1% of grid pull is little more than a kind of "ping" (technically not a ping) my inverters do with the grid by sometimes not being able to find the exact zero of grid interaction when I don't need the grid. (Staying tied to the grid just in case I turn on more appliances than my inverters can provide AC power for.)
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