Poland Invokes NATO's Article 4 Over Russia's Drones As Tensions Rise: Live Updates

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[USA-FRANCE]

Poland has triggered NATO's Article 4 after Prime Minister Donald Tusk reported that 19 Russian drones breached Polish airspace during an overnight strike on western Ukraine. The incursion, which prompted airspace closures and military response, marks a potential escalation in regional tensions and has drawn calls for allied consultations.

[USA-FRANCE]

Here we go !

[Pilsner]

Putin Fanbois may get a chance to remove the “wannabe” from their status of wannabe Quislings.

[Skywise]

I’m seeing some reports that there’s strong evidence that this was a Ukrainian false flag to spit nato into action. Russia denies any such use of their drones in this manner

[Mariner]

There might even be a stern pronouncement, or a mean letter to come of this.

[adorno]

I’m seeing some reports that there’s strong evidence that this was a Ukrainian false flag to spit nato into action. Russia denies any such use of their drones in this manner

You prefer to defend Russia rather than the validity of the news reports.

If Putin or a Russian spokesperson says it, it must be true.

Even if an accident, it still would be Russia that put the drone in Poland or near it, and it shouldn't be happening.

[PGR88]

You are happy, aren’t you?

Sorry, but your London-Brussels bosses and their Ukraine Azov lackeys are just yanking your chain, again.

[srmanuel]

I’m not buying for one second that Russia is behind the drones over Poland, even if they are, was it a mistake or was it intentional.

We’ve been told so many lies that have led to war over the years, I’m buying this story until we see other evidence.

[PGR88]

You prefer to defend Russia rather than the validity of the news reports.

These are your fake, globalist "news reports." People are tired of being lied to by you.

Let's wait for real news to come out.

[adorno]

These are your fake, globalist "news reports."

For certain. If the news did not come from Putin or the Russian media, it's fake. Got you.

People are tired of being lied to by you.

Yet, in all cases, I have been the one supporting the truth and you have been on Putin's side and against all reports that condemn Putin and Russia. Got you.

Let's wait for real news to come out.

Why wait? You already have YOUR real news and Russia could not have done this and it's gotta be a false flag from Poland and/or NATO or Ukraine. Got you.

[USA-FRANCE]

“I’m seeing some reports...”

>>>>>>>>>>>

What are you talking about?? Chamberlain-style talk all over again?

The Kremlin just said it did not want to comment on Poland’s accusation that Russian drones violated the NATO ally’s airspace, leading to several of the devices being shot down.

That’s tells it all, they don’t want to even answer, it means they premeditated this attack.

A polish farm house was destroyed !

We are talking about 19 Russian drones, we have the close-up photos - it’s madness.

Imagine if we launched 19 drones at Russia... Can you imagine?

I think we must respond in a proportionate way right now, one way or the other. If we don’t, the Russian invasion of Europe will be next. This escalating Kremlin circus which started the very day after the Alaska summit - must end. Putin seems to be very vengeful and wants to show Trump he is totally opposed to his peace initiatives.

Russia and their communist allies North Korea and Islamic collaborators IRAN and the Chechens want war.

[mass55th]

Yeah, Here we go! with allegations that have yet to be officially investigated and factual evidence provided. Hitler would be proud of this. He pulled his false flag, using a polish farmer the SS had killed the night before, dressed him up in a Polish uniform, and planted him in a German radio station, then use SS members dressed up as Polish Militia to proclaim over the radio that Poland had taken over the station. Hitler invaded Poland the next day.

[Skywise]

No - I’m looking at the facts objectively.

Objectively it was found that the Ukrainians blew up the oil pipeline from Russia to Germany.

Objectively, Ukraine’s only resource to win their war is to get NATO involved which would override Trumps plans for Ukraine’s surrender to Putin.

Objectively, if Putin wanted to attack Poland they would’ve struck at its military targets with an overwhelming number of drones to surpass Poland’s defenses, instead of sending half a dozen that were easily shot down and did no damage.

Now it could be argued that Putin was testing Poland’s defenses or sending a message… but Poland’s response… to invoke NATO right now and enter the war with Ukraine is kind of an overreaction… unless they wanted to use this as a prelude…

[USA-FRANCE]

“with allegations that have yet to be officially investigated”

>>>>>>>>>>>

We are in 2025. Remember?
We have all the proof. America’s military satellites watching the battlefield have the exact direction those 19 drones took and from where they were launched. It was premeditated. Trump just denounced it as a RUSSIAN VIOLATION. Do you really want to oppose Trump on this? If I was you I would not.

Kremlin’s warmongering fanatics are continuing their never-ending war doctrine. Stalin would be happy.

[Bayard]

Poland pressed the “Big Red” shiny candy-like button and the world exploded.

[mass55th]

"We have all the proof."

Horse$hit!! Because the media says so? It doesn't work that way no matter how much you would like it to. Go pander your propaganda to your fellow war hawks.

[USA-FRANCE]

USA-FRANCE: “We have all the proof.”

mass55th: “Horse$hit!! Because the media says so? It doesn’t work that way no matter how much you would like it to. Go pander your propaganda to your fellow war hawks.”

USA-FRANCE: Your beyond the scale pro-active appeasement of NeoSoviet Russia has become boring. Yawn... Try something else.

[TexasGator]

“I’m seeing some reports that there’s strong evidence that this was a Ukrainian false flag to spit nato into action. Russia denies any such use of their drones in this manner”

TASS and/or RT?

[Skywise]

Nope. Keep watching msnbc though. You’re a good apparatchik

[adorno]

No - I’m looking at the facts objectively.

A lot of 'facts' are not real facts until proven to be facts.

Objectively it was found that the Ukrainians blew up the oil pipeline from Russia to Germany.

There is no proof of that. What has been bandied about is suspicions, because Ukraine is in a war with Russia. Your 'objective' view is suspected of being objectively unproven.

But, even if it was true, Ukraine had the right to blow up anything which Russia used to fund the war. Duh!

Objectively, Ukraine’s only resource to win their war is to get NATO involved which would override Trumps plans for Ukraine’s surrender to Putin.

Ukraine is nowhere close to surrendering, while Russia is closer to 'not winning' the war. IOW, Russia is stuck in a losing situation. NATO countries have a major interest in helping Ukraine, because Russia has historically been an aggressive country to all its neighbors, including a lot of NaTO members.

Meanwhile, it's Russia that has turned to its allies, N.Korea and China and Iran, for help. Russia no longer has the resources to win the war without its allies, and even then, it's not gonna happen. "Objectively', you are wrong in your assessment.

Objectively, if Putin wanted to attack Poland they would’ve struck at its military targets with an overwhelming number of drones to surpass Poland’s defenses, instead of sending half a dozen that were easily shot down and did no damage.

Objectively, you are not paying attention.

Poland is not alone, and has NATO and the U.S. armed forces within the country. The U.S. has the most advanced fighter jets positioned in Poland and Poland has them too, and so do the NATO countries. No matter how many drones and missiles Russia throws at Poland, all or most of them will be shot down.

And, don't forget that, 'objectively', Poland and NATO have a right to strike back at Russia if it's determined that any attack on Poland was intentional. Putin is dumb, but not that dumb to get NATO and the U.S. directly involved in a war with Russia. Russia has nothing that can match the military forces of NATO alone, much less against the U.S.

Now it could be argued that Putin was testing Poland’s defenses or sending a message…

I'm sure that Putin has known for a long time that Russia is no match for NATO, and if he's testing Poland, it's the same as testing NATO. Dumb move.

B but Poland’s response… to invoke NATO right now and enter the war with Ukraine is kind of an overreaction…

Objectively, one could say that Putin's invasion of Ukraine was an overreaction, but then, he was too dumb to understand that Ukraine would not go easy and that he would anger all of Europe and the U.S.

I'm not going to look at Putin 'objectively' and I'm just going to call him highly stupid. What the 'f' did he think would happen? Dumb as a rock.

unless they wanted to use this as a prelude…

"Objectively", I think you've got this whole matter wrong. Poland doesn't need a prelude action, since what Russia did was to basically declare war on the NATO countries. Dumb as heck, 'objectively' that is. ;)

[PGR88]

You clowns jumped on the fake news that “Putin blew up Nordstream,” and “Russia launched missiles at Poland,” “Russia invaded Moldova.”

Now you are crowing that Russia is launching drones at Poland.

As I said, people are getting tired of your bullish**