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American Jews’ wounds are self-inflicted
Times of Israel ^ | 8/27/25 | Janet Aizenstros

Posted on 08/29/2025 3:32:57 PM PDT by wardaddy

A recent opinion piece published in The Times of Israel claimed that “Netanyahu’s Israel is costing American Jews.” The assertion reverses the truth. Israel’s defense of its people is not the source of diaspora alienation. The real fracture is self-inflicted, rooted in assimilation, political misjudgment, and a refusal to recognize Israel’s forensic, historical, scientific, and legal rights to its land.

History makes this pattern clear. Hashem has always used imperfect leaders to secure justice. Cyrus of Persia was a pagan king, yet he freed the Jews from Babylonian captivity and authorized the rebuilding of the Temple (Ezra 1). In modern times, Donald Trump, despite his flaws, delivered decisive outcomes: the recognition of Jerusalem, the US embassy move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the Abraham Accords, and deterrence against Iran. Hashem works through imperfect instruments, and Jewish survival has never been contingent on Western approval.

Critics of Netanyahu invoke the “Masada Complex” to trivialize Jewish survival. Israel is not imagining siege; it is under siege. Hamas murdered over 1,200 Israelis on October 7, Hezbollah fires rockets from Lebanon, and Iran repeatedly vows to erase Israel from the map. To dismiss existential threats as psychology is to mock both history and evidence.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: america

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1 posted on 08/29/2025 3:32:57 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

No excrement Sherlock. OJ was set up.


2 posted on 08/29/2025 3:33:44 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: wardaddy
--- "Israel is not costing American Jews. American Jews are costing themselves."

Bull's eye observation.

For additional discussion, quite related to the historical issue(s)....

Two New Findings That Mohammed Didn't Exist | Dr. Jay Smith Two hour, fascinating presentation full of detail.

3 posted on 08/29/2025 3:40:55 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“Two New Findings That Mohammed Didn’t Exist | Dr. Jay Smith Two hour, fascinating presentation full of detail.”

Robert Spencer’s book “Did Muhammad Exist” covers that subject as well. Books conclusion: he didn’t.

Highly recommended read and an excellent survey of other aspects of that early age of Islam.


4 posted on 08/29/2025 3:57:26 PM PDT by KamperKen (u)
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To: wardaddy

Israel’s forensic, historical, scientific, and legal rights to its land.
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I saw Eric Weinstein in Israel talking about this. The Israeli’s contention was that the point above is all true.

Weinstein then said, well is that all true for the Germans? Because the Israelis’ point was the equivalent of saying “blood on land”

The woman said “sure”. Weinstein recoiled.


5 posted on 08/29/2025 4:06:29 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: wardaddy

Maybe all American and European Jews should make Aliyah to Israel?


6 posted on 08/29/2025 4:13:55 PM PDT by Eli Kopter (ביחד ננצח הלב שלנו שבוי בעזה Together we will win, our heart is captive in Gaza.)
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To: wardaddy

J media...too clever for your own good.


7 posted on 08/29/2025 4:38:12 PM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: KamperKen
--- "Robert Spencer's book “Did Muhammad Exist”

Kudos for adding this into the discussion, which will be too small by FR standards, alas.

8 posted on 08/29/2025 5:09:13 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thanks for the link. Very interesting. BUMP!


9 posted on 08/29/2025 5:24:54 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: KamperKen

Muhammed didn’t exist?
Who made it up in 570 A.D.?
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So their lies and murder and stealing and raping are all based on a lie? What then, became of Ishmael? Abraham’s bastard son?


10 posted on 08/29/2025 6:26:12 PM PDT by BarbM (Men who look at porn are impotent for God.)
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To: wardaddy

<< The real fracture is self-inflicted, rooted in assimilation, political misjudgment, and a refusal to recognize Israel’s forensic, historical, scientific, and legal rights to its land. >>

She nails the main culprits. Political misjudgment has been a huge problem, but Trump getting between 30-35% of the Jewish vote in 2024 up from 20-25% in 2016 is a decent step in the right direction. Conservative Jews outbreeding progs both here and in Israel bodes well.


11 posted on 08/29/2025 7:01:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: wardaddy

WHY any self-respecting American Jew would EVER vote for a democrat amazes me.
I thought “never again” meant something...


12 posted on 08/30/2025 6:08:57 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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WHY any self-respecting American Jew would EVER vote for a democrat amazes me.

"The Nazis were white male conservatives. Therefore, any party opposing white male conservatives and sowing racial division to harm them makes Jews safer."

It starts with voting for a Mamdani and grows into Coudenhove-Kalergi and the Great Replacement.

13 posted on 08/30/2025 6:20:01 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Mr. Mojo; Pelham

I have a feeling as this progresses we’ll have a Krauthammer podhoretz style movement over Israel or we should and I hope

As a founders western civ celebrant somewhat tradcon with one libertarian streak you’re aware of

I’m opposed on some stuff

But I go back magnus 70-80% rule

I’m sure you do too lol

My sons detest my pragmatism but given the Blob and its immense power we have to take out forces where we can

My support for Israel personal not religious is ardent

I hope another 20-39% wake up

I never thought I’d see derision of Israel nor open anti Jewish simply over identity as I see now especially from minorities and young woke

Were it not Netanyahu they might be more muted who knows

They see him like Putin as Trump like with nationalism and culture I think

If I were Jewish and leftist I’d be thinking hey many of my fellow travelers are not so friendly to me based on my last name etc


14 posted on 08/30/2025 8:42:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (This forum has seen better days z)
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To: wardaddy

Yeah, I’ve seen many leftists (Jewish and otherwise) attempt to explain why they hate Bibi, and almost invariably the answer is something along the lines of ….”uhh, well…he’s the Trump of Israel.” Which of course is a non-explanation. You nailed the real reason — they’re allergic to unapologetic nationalists. Because in their minds, nationalism = Nazism. It’s what countless post-war leftists have been brainwashed to believe.


15 posted on 08/30/2025 12:59:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Besides killing six million plus innocents
That’s the endearing legacy of Hitlerism

It left us all neutered for 70 years now

I blame pogroms too

It was far worse than people know

I understand the motivation

I’ve studied it the czars zealots were evil


16 posted on 08/30/2025 2:34:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (This forum has seen better days z)
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