Posted on 08/19/2025 10:30:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Well Frenchy, you have outdone yourself. This is the most disgusting, vile lying smear ever posted on this forum. That anyone here would condone child trafficking. You are a sick freak and should be zotted for this.
Second the motion.
You should be ashamed.
I’m taking all the info from the US DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
Does this mean you are condemning America’s Governement now?
SNIP:
“2024 Trafficking in Persons Report: Russia”
“However, during the reporting period there was a government policy or pattern of trafficking of Ukrainian citizens and North Korean workers. There were also reports of Russian officials forcing, deceiving, or coercing foreign national adults to fight in Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine. As part of its war of aggression against Ukraine, the Russian government operated a sprawling filtration operation and detention system that included the use of forced labor. The government continued to perpetuate the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea’s (DPRK) imposition of forced labor conditions on North Korean workers. The government did not screen North Korean workers in Russia for trafficking indicators or identify any North Korean trafficking victims, despite credible reports in previous years that the DPRK operated work camps in Russia and exploited thousands of North Korean workers in forced labor. Moreover, the government repatriated North Korean workers who had attempted to escape, without screening them for trafficking indicators; these individuals were highly vulnerable to forced labor and other grave harms, such as arrest, imprisonment, torture, or execution, upon return to the DPRK. The government did not report how many North Korean workers remained in Russia in 2023. Separate from this complicity, the government did not report investigating, prosecuting, or convicting any traffickers and did not report identifying any trafficking victims. Authorities continued to lack a process for victim identification and referral to care, and the criminal code did not establish a definition for a trafficking victim, hindering identification efforts and limiting access to victim services. The government offered no funding or programs to provide services for trafficking victims, and authorities routinely penalized victims and potential victims for unlawful acts committed solely as a direct result of being trafficked. As in previous years, the government did not draft a national strategy or assign roles and responsibilities to government agencies to combat human trafficking.”
(CHILDREN!)
“Additionally, the government engaged in conduct that created populations that were highly vulnerable to trafficking. The government’s forcible transfer of tens of thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia, including by forcibly separating some children from their parents or guardians, greatly increased the separated children’s vulnerability to trafficking. Additionally, the government created significant vulnerabilities to trafficking for Ukrainian citizens in Russia-occupied territory in Ukraine by restricting access to a wide range of services and employment for those who did not acquire Russian citizenship. Moreover, the government’s war against Ukraine forced millions of refugees to flee Ukraine, as well as those internally displaced by Russia’s aggression, all of whom were highly vulnerable to trafficking. The scale and scope of such conduct raised real and serious concerns regarding significant potential risks of trafficking.”
The whole thing is written right here, from America’s very own Government.
https://www.state.gov/reports/2024-trafficking-in-persons-report/russia/
It’s not about your credibility. Your vile smears are the issue. You’re just trying to bully and intimidate people to shut down debat and opinion sharing. It’s a Democrat and communist tactic that doesn’t belong on this forum. Accusing people of condoning child trafficking is a disgusting new low for you. Again, you should be banned for that post.
Wrong.
I responded to someone on this thread who shamlessly said: “Russian troops intercepted some Ukrainian convoys of liddle kiddies destined for the US/EU market..”
Now THAT is a vile and baseless accusation!
I responded accordingly. To make things worse. The one who posted that comment has “666” in his nickname.
DO you know what 666 means? It’s the sign of the devil.
I’m not inviting anything.
Read before attacking others.
inventing*
“Read before attacking others.”
No, you made a blanket accusation against more than just that one guy. That guy did not smear other members here, you did. It’s alaways been the pattern with you. Lying and smearing people.
Fog of war. Both sides are full of crap.
Wrong again.
I talked about Putin lovers and Communists in general that are rationalizing, always putting the blame on child trafficking on the Ukrainians, and never on the Russians who are forcibly separating Ukrainian kids from their Ukrainian parents! Giving excuses to Putin. Again and again. That is indeed rationalizing Putin’s horrible kidnapping-of-children-behavior!
The US Department of State says it all.
“I talked about Putin lovers and Communists in general that are rationalizing, always putting the blame on child trafficking on the Ukrainians”
Another dirty lie. No one here is doing that. You should get the zot.
Whatever Melania wants.
“”””I’ve always been under the impression these are Russian children being trafficked through Ukraine. I’m not sure what to believe.””””
One indicator is that Russia is one of the worst human trafficking nations on earth which is why it is rated in the worst category of Tier 3 in Human trafficking, Ukraine is a Tier 2, a much better rating which means it fights trafficking and works with international efforts to stop it.
Here are the 2022 rankings, Tier 3 is the bottom of the barrel, it means human trafficking is rampant and their government doesn’t care, and may even be part of it.
2022 Trafficking in Persons Report: Russia
OFFICE TO MONITOR AND COMBAT TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS
IN THIS SECTION
RUSSIA (TIER 3) https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-trafficking-in-persons-report/russia/
2022 Trafficking in Persons Report: Ukraine
OFFICE TO MONITOR AND COMBAT TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS
IN THIS SECTION
UKRAINE (TIER 2) https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-trafficking-in-persons-report/ukraine/
Here are more recent rankings.
2024 Trafficking in Persons Report: Russia
In this section /
RUSSIA (Tier 3)
https://2021-2025.state.gov/reports/2024-trafficking-in-persons-report/russia/
2024 Trafficking in Persons Report: Ukraine
In this section /
UKRAINE (Tier 2)
https://www.state.gov/reports/2024-trafficking-in-persons-report/ukraine/
Ukraine did more than that.
“The Government of Ukraine does not fully meet the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking but is making significant efforts to do so. The government demonstrated overall increasing efforts compared with the previous reporting period; therefore Ukraine remained on Tier 2. These efforts included adopting a 2023-2025 NAP, resuming labor inspections and identifying potential trafficking cases during those inspections, and cooperating with European counterparts on anti-trafficking investigations, despite diminished resources and capacity because of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Although prosecution data was not fully disaggregated, authorities investigated, prosecuted, and convicted more traffickers and created a specialized anti-human trafficking prosecution unit. The government identified more trafficking victims and continued extensive awareness raising campaigns in coordination with international organizations. Ukraine’s government operated on a total war footing to withstand Russia’s unprovoked full-scale invasion, performing a range of core functions to mitigate trafficking risks despite major war-related challenges, continued Russian strikes on Ukrainian civilian and critical infrastructure targets, and displacement of nearly one-third of Ukraine’s population, many of whom faced increased human trafficking risks. However, the government did not meet the minimum standards in several key areas. Judges continued to issue lenient sentences that did not include prison time for most convicted traffickers, which weakened deterrence, did not adequately reflect the nature of the crime, and undercut broader efforts to fight trafficking. Despite persistent concerns of corruption fostering impunity for trafficking crimes and ongoing investigations of complicit officials, for the seventh consecutive year the government did not secure any convictions of complicit officials. The government did not identify any foreign national trafficking victims, and while the government took some steps to protect unaccompanied children, deficiencies in the government’s oversight of children evacuated from Ukrainian care institutions increased their risk of trafficking. NGOs continued to identify systemic shortcomings in the implementation of the NRM and victim services.”
“Either put up or shut your lying mouth.”
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Read again.
I talked about Putin lovers and Communists in general that are rationalizing, always putting the blame on child trafficking on the Ukrainians, US and EU, and never on the Russians who are forcibly separating Ukrainian kids from their Ukrainian parents! Giving excuses to Putin. Again and again. That is indeed rationalizing Putin’s horrible kidnapping-of-children-behavior! Right?
Someone on this thread using the divil mark 666 in his nickname accused the whole US/EU of child trafficking saying that Ukraine had convoys of little kids for the US/EU “market”. WOW!
That’s an immense insult for America as a nation and the EU nations! I’m defending America and the EU representing millions of people from horrible baseless insults. You have a problem with that?
Again:
Russia is doing the human trafficking in this Russian war of aggression. The US department of State confirms it. I sent the link here on this thread. Its official.
I don’t understand why you are not supporting me in defending America?
Thank you for confirming.
Indeed Russia is TIER 3 way worse than Ukraine (Tier 2).
That’s why it’s truly weird that some sytematically ignore Russia’s worse behavior. They stay mum about Russia on that issue.
On Kremlin Government orders Russian soldiers are separating Ukrainian children from their own Ukrainian parents and take the children to mainland Russia! It’s state-sponsored child kidnapping - an abomination.
But.. Russia will be rationalized by some, again and again... Even though they are at the worse TIER 3 position.
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