Posted on 08/17/2025 3:56:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
A string of Ukrainian politicians and public figures condemned the idea of handing over unoccupied land to Russia for peace on Sunday, arguing that their country had not been defeated and should not be forced into a surrender.
The hardening of the mood came at the end of a weekend where there was first ridicule and disgust in Ukraine at the red-carpet treatment of Vladimir Putin by Donald Trump at their summit in Alaska, followed by frustration as it appeared that Trump was siding with the Russian leader.
Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if Zelenskyy agreed to give up the areas of the Donbas region that the Russian invaders have not been able to seize in more than three years of fighting.
Halyna Yanchenko, an independent member of Ukraine’s parliament, said the suggestion that Ukraine should “simply surrender new territories without a fight – because Putin wants it – is absurd from the very start”.
The MP, an anti-corruption activist previously part of Zelenskyy’s Servant of the People party, said hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians would be affected by Putin’s proposal, initially favoured by Trump after Friday’s Alaska summit.
Official estimates are that 255,000 people still live in the 3,500 square miles (9,000 sq km) of Donetsk province that Russia has been unable to seize in its three-and-a-half-year invasion, which includes the industrial cities of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk. The Donbas also comprises Luhansk province, which is almost totally occupied by Russia.
Prior to Russia’s full-scale invasion the population of Donetsk was 1.9 million, the number of people with property and other connections to the area wanted by Russia is higher. “So when someone brings up the idea of ‘trading territory’, we must understand that in practice it is trading people,” Yanchenko said.
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Well it certainly hasn’t hardened with all those fighting-age Ukrainian men safely tucked away in Poland.
The mouse that pretended to roar?
Then, Ukraine will lose everything east of the Dnieper river and, probably, Odessa.
They oppose “handing over” land that has been captured in war.
That ship has sailed.
If this goes wrong l, President Trump should throw Z and the Europeans out of the White Hoise, and tell them we they are now completly on thier own. 100 percent Tarriff also. I’m SICK of these leeches.
“The mouse that pretended to roar?”
In three years fighting Russia has lost territory and over 200k men.
Not roaring so loudly now!
https://youtu.be/T37p01_21co?feature=shared
These are people that have pocketed tons of US taxpayer $. They want it to go on as long as possible. They will eventually flee with their ill gotten wealth.
No!! We want to hold on to our dictatorships. We have to keep the people of Ukraine under a perpetual state of Martial Law so we can stay in office, and continue to send those 18 year olds who haven't had the chance to vote yet, off to die for their country.
Well, it’s The Guardian, so I take what they and the other British tabloids say with a grain of salt.
But I do know that there are lots of Ukrainians and other Euroweenies who desperately want this death and destruction to continue indefinitely because they’re benefiting from it. They’re working hard to thwart any efforts at a peace deal.
This ANTI-Trump Ukrainian needs to be Freeped. He thinks America is obligated to send arms to Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIewaVaGUYg
Well it certainly hasn’t hardened with all those fighting-age Ukrainian men safely tucked away in Poland.
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They don’t want to die in a stupid war set off by nutjobs who only care about geopolitics, war profiting, and planning for the next war.
I can’t really blame them for wanting a normal life, not a life in a warzone.
I think we would rather escape to Poland than fight in a trench in the Donbass.
And guess what, even when the war is over, they won’t go back to Ukraine.
Last week there was an article stating a survey among the people in Ukraine that 69% wanted peace, wanted the fighting to end.
And guess what, even when the war is over, they won’t go back to Ukraine.
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Both Russia and Ukraine have been losing people to greener pastures even before the war.
They better figure out a peace deal that works or the trend will become irreversible.
Especially if you live in cities like Kyiv or Lviv, you want the war to end. You're not going to want to fight in the Donbass just so you can hold on to the territory.
That’s usually how surrenders happen; one side gets forced.
“Ukrainian mood hardens as MPs insist country should not be forced to surrender”
Remember, they’re fighting for “freedom” and given that, they’ll immediately buckle to the Europeans once they’re told to, as they’ll have no other choice in the matter.
Both Russia and Ukraine have been losing people to greener pastures even before the war.
They better figure out a peace deal that works or the trend will become irreversible.
Before they become Vassal States of the new Ottoman Empire.
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