[dennisw]

I agree with you but lets hope for the best on these Trump-Russia-Ukraine negotiations. Talking is better that killing thousands each month. We might get lucky.

[adorno]

I agree with you but lets hope for the best on these Trump-Russia-Ukraine negotiations.

Sure, negotiations should continue, but at this point, it's clear that it's mostly a personal goal for trump.

Talking is better that killing thousands each month. We might get lucky.

Putin doesn't believe in talks which won't grant him his initial goal of taking Ukraine. With Putin, it's a personal goal and ambition, and destroying Ukraine and even Russia while doing it, is of no consequence to him.

It's a matter of line and death to Europe/NATO and Ukraine, and Putin cannot be rewarded for his aggression.

The U.S. can pull out and become irrelevant.