Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: MinorityRepublican

I am so proud of President Putin’s willingness to negotiate for peace even though the aggression was initiated by U and the EU.


12 posted on 08/16/2025 7:51:29 AM PDT by nwrep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: nwrep
I am so proud of President Putin’s willingness to negotiate for peace even though the aggression was initiated by U and the EU.

Correction: Putin is the aggressor. He started this war.

13 posted on 08/16/2025 7:53:54 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: nwrep

You forgot the sarcasm tag.


14 posted on 08/16/2025 7:57:03 AM PDT by Petrosius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: nwrep

I really don’t get how anyone can seriously believe that. It’s about as papably, obviously untrue as saying Donald Trump’s a waif-thin 18 year old female supermodel.

Medvedev and Putin are revanchists. They’ve read too many of Dugin’s books. They’re both massively butthurt that the Iron Curtain fell not at the instigation of Reagan or Bush, but as a result of the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, and other countries inside the USSR choosing to dismantle the USSR.

They’re further annoyed that Gorbachev and Scheverdnaze chose not to formalise the James Baker / HW Bush pledge to not expand NATO eastwards - and both those guys said so publicly, on the record, that the offer was made and they didn’t take it up. (I mean, c’mon! It’s obvious why they didn’t! The USSR was never EVER going to put anything in an international treaty that implied Moscow had no power to prevent Poland, Latvia and the rest applying to join NATO so the USSR was begging NATO to reassure them that it’d say “no”!)

Finally, it galled Medvedev and Putin that almost all of eastern Europe actively chose to pursue membership of the EEC and NATO instead of seeking membership of the RF and CSTO. The one exception is a former commie true believer who is dependent on Moscow to keep him installed as president for life - Lukashenko. Luka knows that most of his people would much rather be aligned with the EU, Poland and Ukraine than aligned with Moscow - he’s already told Putin that if he orders his own troops to participate in the Special Military operation, there’ll be a civil war in Belarus.

The Russian revanchist leadership’s been driven mad by its delusional bitterness. They hate that every country that is allowed to let its own people exercise the “independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity” granted at the Belovezha Accords, actively rejects alignment with RF/CSTO. Revanchists are so self-deluded it doesn’t occur to them that Russia is only viewed as utterly toxic by the countries to its west because they’re all sick and tired of Russia’s toxic behaviours and constant threats. No; they have to blame someone else so it’s the fault of the Jews, or the Germans, or the Brits, or the Banderites, or the Deep State, or Soros, or the Gays, or the man in the moon. Everybody’s to blame except Putin, Medvedev, and the rest of the Dugin Parrots Club.

Their hatred, butthurt, paranoia and delusions of grandeur are the root causes of this conflict. The SMO isn’t a consequence of anything that Europe, or NATO, did to hurt Russia. Unless you count the worst things NATO’s ACTUALLY done to Russia in the last thirty years... snorting derisively at Putin’s utterly retarded demands in December 2021, and before that concluding that because Putin was already breaking Russia’s Minsk commitments before the ink was even dry, it might be wise to sign anyway and tool Ukraine up ready for the inevitable invasion.


24 posted on 08/16/2025 10:06:45 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: nwrep

“I am so proud of President Putin’s willingness to negotiate for peace even though the aggression was initiated by U and the EU.”

It’s also in Putin’s interest as the Neocons are killing his troops also, and beyond that Putin would rather not have to take Western Ukraine where the people there, unless in the East, won’t see it as a liberation, but an occupation.

Then there are a TON of reasons for Putin to want to be on good terms with the United States, although, sadly for us, we are never more than one election away from electing another psycho-government frothing at the mouth regarding Russia, a country that refuses to surrender to them.


28 posted on 08/16/2025 11:36:14 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson