Posted on 08/01/2025 5:23:43 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
The U.S. and NATO are working on a novel approach to supply Ukraine with weapons using funds from NATO countries to pay for the purchase or transfer of U.S. arms, according to three sources familiar with the matter.
The renewed transatlantic cooperation on Ukraine comes as U.S. President Donald Trump has expressed frustration with Moscow's ongoing attacks on its neighbor.
Trump, who initially took a more conciliatory tone toward Russia as he tried to end the more than three-year war in Ukraine, has threatened to start imposing tariffs and other measures if Moscow shows no progress toward ending the conflict by August 8.
The president said last month the U.S. would supply weapons to Ukraine, paid for by European allies, but did not indicate how this would be done.
NATO countries, Ukraine, and the United States are developing a new mechanism that will focus on getting U.S. weapons to Ukraine from the Priority Ukraine Requirements List, known under the acronym PURL, the sources said.
Ukraine would prioritize the weapons it needs in tranches of roughly $500 million, and NATO allies - coordinated by NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte - would then negotiate among themselves who would donate or pay for items on the list.
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Maybe there are a few more weapons laying around in some Pentagon closet, but not much more...NATO’s pretty much washed out now.
Not happy about this at all.
Trump says US needs to get off the sidelines in Ukraine’s fight for survival
Fox Business Mar 21, 2022
https://youtu.be/X-c1Me0Kezg?si=DS0cqz9Yn54C20gf
Correct.
Many pro-Russian posters said that they didn’t care who won as long as the American taxpayer wasn’t paying for the weapons.
Now the EU rather than the US is paying for the weapons.
Pro-Russian posters are still upset.
Maybe they weren’t telling the truth all along.
“Not happy about this at all.”
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Everything is going according to plan. I’m happy about Trump’s Peace Through Strength strategy targeting Russia. Trump is a genius, and the toughest US president ever against the Kremlin deep-state - as I have been saying for years here. What Trump is doing now against Russia, I expected nothing less from our great President Trump.
He is making America respected again. Russia’s period of mocking and threatening American is coming to an end.
Good news.
Now the EU rather than the US is paying for the weapons.
Pro-Russian posters are still upset.
Maybe they weren’t telling the truth all along.
I was about to post the same, but with a sarcasm tag. We knew all along they were lying. It was clear in both the content and tone of their posts. In a choice between Trump and Putin, many of them would choose Putin, though they would never admit it here.
The president said last month the U.S. would supply weapons to Ukraine, paid for by European allies, but did not indicate how this would be done.
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European deadbeats aren’t going to pay the bill. This is just a smokescreen to show we’re “doing something” to change the current unfavorable position Ukraine is in.
We’ll continue to drain our munition reserves and will be “on the hook” for the financing, which will become clearer at a later date.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US, NATO developing novel funding mechanism for Ukraine weapons transfers, ansel12 wrote: Trump says US needs to get off the sidelines in Ukraine’s fight for survival
Fox Business Mar 21, 2022
https://youtu.be/X-c1Me0Kezg?si=DS0cqz9Yn54C20gfIn the 3+ year old video you linked, Trump says US needs to get off the sidelines in Ukraine’s fight for survival, Trump said that Biden should be doing something, but that Biden waited too long. The war started in February and one month in, Trump was saying Biden had strong cards to play but he waited too long, and if he were president (Trump) then he would have prevented the war from started.
When pressed for what he would do, Trump said you need three things to fight a war, money, money and money. For this reason, he talked about weakening oil prices. He spoke of javelin missiles that he sent. He said instead of sending 40 year old planes (ransomnote: Biden sent old junker planes) we should send drones. He said that Putin was using the 'n' word (nuclear) and in response, Trump would move our submarines into postion. (ransomnote: Trump has done that this week)
Trump wasn't talking about sending troops or planes (w/pilots). Trump also said that Ukraine was losing thousands and thousands of people in these attacks. He said Ukraine was under reporting and if you see entire flattened buildings, then more have died than just what is reported (the example of under reporting fatalities which Trump gave was '2 people died' as a result of a flattened building). He said we have to stop the bloodshed.
But now Trump knows the US has given Ukraine almost $200 billion, and as Trump previously said, Zelensky should have negotiated years ago. Trump is making good on his talk about moving nuclear submarines and going after funding. If Zelensky will fight to the last Ukrainian, then Trump is focusing on getting Putin to stop. This is 3 years later - just imagine how many people died on both sides needlessly.
But NATO wants it's war, and Putin wants to avoid having the same war a few years from now.
I watched Alexander Mercouris' most recent video today, and Ukraine is losing front lines, and trying to dig new front lines behind those which are collapsing.
US Panics As Ukraine Fronts Crumble, Sanctions Loom; Rubio: Russia Won't Bend; Witkoff To Moscow.
Russia is in a position to take the last 3 large cities before reaching the Dnipo (Chasiv Yar, Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka).
That video could have been made today, he even said he would probably do more than send old jets like Biden did.
Right now President Trump has American troops in Germany training the Ukrainians to fight the Russians and North Koreans, it is the same unit that he had stationed in Ukraine training the Ukrainians in 2018.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US, NATO developing novel funding mechanism for Ukraine weapons transfers, ansel12 wrote: That video could have been made today, he even said he would probably do more than send old jets like Biden did.
Right now President Trump has American troops in Germany training the Ukrainians to fight the Russians and North Koreans, it is the same unit that he had stationed in Ukraine training the Ukrainians in 2018.
Yes, along with other videos in which Trump said Zelensky had no cards, should have surrendered, and then threw Zelensky out of his office.
Trump wants people to stop dying - and he'll do what he can to help, but my point is he is not sending US troops to fight NATO's proxy war against Russia.
WHen NATO tried to pressure Trump to give (article 5) guarantees for NATO self defense, Trump said, "Well yes but it depends what you call 'defense'" and by that, he was pointing out NATO was conducting a war in Ukraine against Russia and cannot claim 'self defense' if Russia retaliates against them.
You keep talking about American troops hitting the battlefield to fight the Russians and North Koreans, you sound sort of nuts.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US, NATO developing novel funding mechanism for Ukraine weapons transfers, ansel12 wrote: You keep talking about American troops hitting the battlefield to fight the Russians and North Koreans, you sound sort of nuts.
NATO/EU plans require the US to fight NATO's proxy war for them. I think they are nuts but my talking about their plans is not nuts. Hegseth told the Eu/NATO nations the US would not back Article 5 in Ukraine, so the Euros and Zelensky continue to talk about peace as if all they need now is the US to promise to support Article 5 'security guarantee.' They won't shut up about it.
US involvement is the key part of Zelensky's 'Victory Plan'. He repeated over and over - the US must get directly into the war for Ukraine to win. No matter how many times others pointed out to him that wasn't going to happen, he kept that plan. He went around Europe with his 'victory plan' until the Euros wouldn't see him. So he went home. Now the EU and NATO nations are saying they want 'security guarantees' (article 5 mutual defense) for a peace plan to work.
Get it? Only when the US promises to fight if NATO nations are attacked (and Ukraine) will NATO allow a peace plan to go forward. Once the US 'promises' to back a peace plan directly, then NATO will once again try to start WWIII with Putin, and this time they'll tell the US to step up and protect them as 'promised.'
The Euros claim they can handle Ukraine's expenses and defense from here on out, when they can't. But a day or two ago, I think it was Germany that said they can do this, if only the US will grant a 'security guarantee.' Their entire proxy war is built on getting the US directly into the war. Crazy, but then that's NATO for you.
US boots on the ground has been NATO's plan to win their proxy war against Putin from before the coup which overthrew Ukraine in 2014. They had no concept of Ukraine winning over Russia - the size and capacity disparity was too great. So they were banking on dragging the war out as long as they could (die slowly) so that Putin's people would drive him out of office to get out of the war, and/or get the US to fight Russia directly.
Most of NATO's tactics in Ukraine had to do with trying to get the war they 'need' started by provoking Putin. The US is supposed to fight Russia on behalf of NATO because NATO doesn't like to get its hands dirty. So Trump doesn't provide that security guarantee and the war drags on.
You are posting rambling nonsense.
Rather than create a fantasy, quit pretending that there is some serious plan for American troops to join on the battlefield against North Korea and
Russia, or at least wait for me to join your goofy fantasy before you start bothering me about it.
That's nonsense.
2,000 to 2,800 outdated M2 Bradleys in storage
about 3,700 Abrams in storage, belonging to the oldest variants (M1A1 and M1A2)
Over 300 F-16's in storage
US has tons of weapons in storage
LOL, very true. He believes every crackpot theory out there.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US, NATO developing novel funding mechanism for Ukraine weapons transfers, ansel12 wrote: You are posting rambling nonsense.
Rather than create a fantasy, quit pretending that there is some serious plan for American troops to join on the battlefield against North Korea and
Russia, or at least wait for me to join your goofy fantasy before you start bothering me about it.It's well known internationally - NATO/Zelensky's plan to wrap the US into their war and have the US fight Russisa. And it's a complete mystery to you. IN fact you're so sensitive about it, I should post it more often. You don't need to read it, but others may not know about it.
Zelensky has nothing to do with American troop deployments in Ukraine or anywhere else, and hasn’t asked for them.
Show me the video and the quotes of him asking for American troops to fight in Ukraine, there is a reason that other people don’t know it.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US, NATO developing novel funding mechanism for Ukraine weapons transfers, ansel12 wrote: Zelensky has nothing to do with American troop deployments in Ukraine or anywhere else, and hasn’t asked for them.
Show me the video and the quotes of him asking for American troops to fight in Ukraine, there is a reason that other people don’t know it.
The media, and people like you have worked to conceal the effort to get the United STates into direct conflict with Russia. At first, the only sign that Zelensky's NATO handlers want him to get the US boots on the ground were anecdotes leake from conferences in Europe. The first hints in text were classified sections of Zelensky's 'Victory Plan' which he only presented to Western Leaders.
The plan includes five points: one geopolitical, two military, one economical and one related to national defense and safety.[4] The second, third and fourth points of the plan have classified conditions included, that were introduced only to the political leaders of the US, Germany, France, United Kingdom and Italy.[5][6]
The next hint was Zelensky's suggestion that Ukrainian troops would replace some US troops deployed in military bases in other countries.
Zelensky unveils the Victory Plan
"The fifth includes an offer to deploy Ukrainian troops instead of US forces in military bases in Europe.
Why would Zelensky send Ukrainian troops to replace some US troops in Europe? To free up US military personel to serve as peace keepers in Ukraine.
Zelensky calls for U.S. peacekeepers in Ukraine after the war
"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated on Wednesday in an interview with Bloomberg.
“[A peacekeeping contingent] can’t be without the United States,” Zelensky said. “Even if some European friends think it can be, no it can’t be. Nobody will risk without the United States.”"
Note that Zelensky wants 200,000 peace keepers from Europe in addition to peace keepers from the US. NATO wants US peacekeepers too - it's what they mean by 'security guarantees'. They want the US to extend article 5 security guarantees to Ukraine. Thankfully, President Trump continues to refuse.
Zelensky Calls for 200,000 Peacekeepers, Rejects Troop Reduction Demands
Once Zelensky got US peace keepers in Ukraine, Zelensky would resume his prior attempts to start WWIII.
Zelensky Accused of Trying to Start World War III Over Missile Strike
"UKRAINE tried to start WW3 yesterday when a UKRAINIAN missile struck a NATO country and killed innocent civilians. Ukrainian leaders LIED and BLAMED RUSSIA. The AP wrote it up unquestioningly," conservative commentator Benny Johnson wrote on Twitter. "Ukrainian Leaders LIED to try and initiate full-blown WW3. These are the facts."
Then Zelensky would demand that the US 'honor' article 5 and actively fight Putin.
NATO and Zelensky still want war and they still want the US to fight it for them. They say there can't be a peace agreement without the US 'backing it up' (e.g., promising to fight Russia as needed). Meanwhile, NATO/Ukraine have built in provocations into Zelensky's terms for peace, starting with instantly giving Ukraine NATO membership and installing a substantial military force from NATO/US in Ukraine. This all a win for NATO/Zelensky hopes for war.
Trump continues to say 'no' but Zelensky and NATO keep trying. You and the media pretend you're unaware of this 2-step tactic to involve the US directly in fighting.
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