Posted on 07/18/2025 6:30:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
The key issue, putting Epstein’s pedo crimes aside, is: Was there an operation to blackmail congressmen and other pols to change votes and policy? If there is evidence to that, it has to come out. If it doesn’t, or there is no evidence, it’s a nothing burger.
Also FOR YEARS I am one of the few that continues to debunk the charge that Chief Justice is on that flight log.
It isn’t him. I even tracked down where he was at the time. It wasn’t Epstein’s plane. It is a plane that was later sold and used by drug traffickers. When it crashed the traffickers destroyed the plane. THAT is how much I have researched some of the claims on this site.
So dont give me some crap that I want a generic list when I am debunking one already in the public
Did Ken Starr really have that much juice to get the DOJ not to prosecute Epstein after a 53 page indictment? I don’t know much about Ken Starr. Maybe he did.
It seems more likely that the powers that be didn’t want him prosecuted. blackmailed? CIA intervened? Israel backchanneled the issue???? who knows at this point
I do know I was once told of a case where someone was being audited by the State and ahem..someone... intervened and shut it down. It was not done as a favor. It was done because of necessity.
ummmm dude, Prince Andrew is neither dead or in prison..
but Virginia Guiffre is
Meaning?
Jeffery Epstein’s tax returns could be released if Congress or Trump wanted them to be.
Ghislaine Maxwell’s tax returns could be released if Congress or Trump wanted them to be.
The FBI surely has evidence logs. They could be redacted and released.
I know, it’s really getting silly (formerly trite).
“He pimped underage girls to the rich and powerful in a blackmail scheme that netted billions.”
Everyone agrees with that statement.
>”He worked with the US govt as a CIA asset.”
Everyone agrees with that statement.
>”No one other than him and Maxwell ever faced justice.”
Everyone agrees with that statement.
>”The people he pimped the children to should be in prison.”
WHOA! WOW! You CONSPIRACIST. Shut the f**k up. Thats not real. None of that is real.
This is no different than them expecting us to believe Hunter had no laptop—that it was muh Russia.
Or a conservative YouTube.
Or that Joe was competent.
Stephen King is a twat.
Trump might publicly state that he will, come September 1, unless there is credible evidence of other related sexual crime received by him before then:
1. commute Maxwell’s federal sentences (to say time served if she provides proof and to say through 2028 if she doesn’t),
2. pardon all third-party under-age female federal offenses committed with Epstein’s or Maxwell’s connivance.
I’m sure that idea won’t be well-received, but if there’s nothing to pardon (or no evidence to convict), the pardon offer would be meaningless.
One of the Epstein females will almost certainly talk (or provide proof via an attorney) so a perp doesn’t walk.
As for Maxwell, a popular newspaper distributed in the early 1990s in DC used to carry I assume lucrative ads offering ‘services’ from persons 18 years or older to the depraved denizens of DC.
Maxwell supplied girls a few years younger.
“Pimping is a felony crime that may be punishable by three, four, or six years in the state prison. If the prostitute involved in the pimping operation is less than 16 years old, pimping may be punishable by imprisonment in [California] state prison for three, six, or eight years, as well as by a $5,000 fine.”
https://www.la-criminal-defense.com/pimping
Agreed. It’s effin X. Who cares, or doesn’t know it used to be Twitter?
“...I thought King quit X … the social media site was too “MAGA.”...”
Steve has also claimed that he quit his coke habit, too.
Well, on that subject you could make a list...
Or perhaps somebody already made the list.
Steven King: ‘There’s no list and I’m not on it if there’s a list.’
Do you actually believe the son of one of the most legendary monarchs in the history of the British empire is going to be handcuffed and fingerprinted??? I'm sorry but that's just silly.
That would be like asking MLB to suspend Barry Bonds for taking steroids in the middle of 2001 when he was making the owners hundreds of millions of dollars.
That would be like expecting a California jury with minorities on it to actually convict OJ.
You've got some high expectations, and you will never get closure. Let this one go.
Ehh I wouldn’t be so sure a lot of these people Epstein partied with where extremely wealthy if they wanted access to young girls they could have gotten them from anywhere. Matt Groenig the Simpsons tv show creator used to like to have girls from Jeffrey give him foot massages but there’s no evidence he was sleeping with them.
Right, which is why I say maybe we are looking at this all backwards. Everyone agrees the guy was a total scumbag. He did horrible things. But everyone is trying to connect others to his sexual abuse and saying he was a trafficker and pimp for purposes of getting blackmail dirt.
But maybe he wasn’t the blackmailer. Maybe he was the blackmailed. Maybe he was the bagman. Maybe he was the front for others. And sure that would buy him some protection, “connected to intel” wasn’t that the reason he got such a sweetheart deal the first time around in Florida?
And if you are the bagman for the richest and most powerful, then it makes sense that you would need the most expensive single family home in Manhattan, and a ranch, and a Miami waterfront home and maybe the Island was just one color of bags used for certain types or maybe it was mostly just his personal kink given that, as the bagman to Rich and powerful he has to keep some appearances.
You want Israel to cut some kind of deal and need to bribe their government officials, call Epstein. You need the UK to smuggle arms into Africa, call Epstein. You need the POTUS? Call Epstein. You need an academic study to back up a bullshit Grant proposedal to get government cash, call Epstein to call Harvard. He has the fronts so the appearances can be made to look like anything - going to help African children for example. Going to invest in medical research at Harvard. Or at MIT. That’s just the cover story. The real reason was to negotiate deal with Epstein guaranteeing the cash. And all this, or most of this, is unrelated to his personal scumbaggery. It’s just that his personal scumbaggery makes him a person who can’t ever say no. We need you to deliver this cash to that person for some reason, make it look good. The people in the orbit, most of them anyway, weren’t there for the kink they were there for the green. Though the kink didn’t hurt since it was an operation of some sort or another. Perhaps just an op that we are perceiving incorrectly.
That is what the issue is all about , powerful people not accountable which you say is a fool errand. You made a statement. I pointed out an error.
‘Just being okay’ with a cabal of elite pedophiles getting away with it because it all seems like so much hassle or seems so unlikely to result in anything is really bizarre.
Any right-thinking person should wish all the relevant identifying material, within boundaries of taste (ie. Obviously, nobody is asking for CSAM to be aired out for consumption - but we want to know who is in what material and in what manner) to be exposed and publicly available.
Then, let the public decide what to do about these individuals who make mockeries of the laws of men, and who are protected by earthly riches. Let institutions flounder at excuses to not punish the guilty, and let lines in sand be drawn, while perhaps some of these get the ostracism (and some, perhaps, the punishment, procedural or otherwise) they deserve.
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