Posted on 07/15/2025 6:29:19 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
Yup, Trump tried for almost 6 months to be good cop to Putin, who ignored him and continued to make unreasonable demands to stop his aggression- Ukraines surrender.
“That’s what you Zeepers want. Thermal Nuclear War with Russia.”
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“Zeepers” you say... that’s Putin and his “Z” army right?
He puts “Z” all over the place: tanks, billboards, missiles, cars, trucks, motorcycles... You name it.
So yes, Putin’s Zeeper army seems to enjoy nuke talk. Russian state TV broadcasts how Russia would nuke America and the West about every week....
“””””There is a reasoned doctrine that accepts using low yield small tactical nuclear weapons in a ground war”””””
To prevent being conquered by invasion, or to start using nuclear weapons in conducting territorial conquest invasions of neighboring countries?
Folks should consider the source...
A nuclear strike might even be on the table.
Trump was elected to keep us out of WW III and nuclear war.
President Trump has just executed the best act of political ju jitsu that any of us are likely to see in our life times.
In one fell swoop he has shut down the US piggy bank for Ukraine and effectively Europeanized the war in Ukraine. It's their tar baby now and the Europeans get to pay for it.
The best part is that they will pay for that war by buying from America.
Under the new agreement between 1-2% of EU GDP is going to go to the purchase of US weapons to help fund our military rebuild and obtain far greater economies of scale and lower costs for US weapons production .
One of the very few products that the US can quickly sell to the EU to balance trade deficits is US weapons. And it's not like the EU is going to levy tarriffs on US arms that they are buying.
And while the Trump secondary tariff threat looks on the surface like it is targeted to countries like India and China, the tariffs are really going to devastate the EU economy - especially for Germany, Fiance, Great Britain, Belgium and other EU countries that have been sabotaging the Trump peace initiatives and who have been pushing Zelensky to fight on to the last Ukrainian soldier and the last American Patriot missile.
Plus any restrictions on Russian oil and gas really help further Trump's agenda to make the US a major supplier of natural gas to the EU
And best of all, the attempts by President Trump's enemies, domestic and abroad, to suck Trump into a disaster in Ukraine and blame him for Ukraine's downfall are pretty much short circuited
Congrats to Team Trump for a master stroke political move to end the Ukraine war and really help implement the MAGA agenda and rescue the American economy in the process.
Captain B. H. Liddell Hart somewhere is smiling
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I don't believe for a second that Trump would allow Ukraine to have long-rang missiles.
Quote: There is a reasoned doctrine that accepts using low yield small tactical nuclear weapons in a ground war …the physical damage can be contained to a relatively small area, the psychological damage to the enemy would be immense and potentially war ending. I believe the term is “ escalate to de escalate”.
Familiar with the doctrine and it was never going to work. We would respond and being that closer to the Soviet Union, it would have escalated out of control fast.
Quote: “ Eurottrash fake news exaggerating low-level Russian pols shaking fists or making veiled threats isn’t “Russia” threatening nuclear war”
I think you missed my point. I am tired of the drama queens, high or low level, throwing a hissy fit and dragging out the “we will nuke you” BS. They should all open a can of STFU.
You seem to be bothered by Trump’s anti-Russia stance. Why?
Why would Ukraine not be allowed to hit strategic targets in Moscow with long-range missiles in its defense against Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine??
Moscow launches long-range missiles against Kiev (the capital of Ukraine) every single night. Right? They even launched a nuclear capable ballistic missiles with multiple warheads at hypersonic speeds against a Ukrainian city about a month ago... Remember?
So why is only the Kremlin allowed to act that way, according to your logic?
Please explain. Can’t Ukraine reciprocate?
“I work with a few Brits”
Interesting. You never post working with AMERICANS!
Moscow launches long-range missiles against Kiev (the capital of Ukraine) every single night. Right? They even launched a nuclear capable ballistic missiles with multiple warheads at hypersonic speeds against a Ukrainian city about a month ago... Remember? Is that ok?
Lols.... I doubt Zelensky has the balls to fire missiles into Moscow, if when he gets such capable missiles. From the USA or the Europeans. Putin’s response would be fearsome. * But* I can see Zelensky firing missiles into Russia at their military installations + oil and gas refineries and facilities. Hitting storage tanks there for some big time fireworks, that cripple Russian oil exports. Hitting Putin right in the pocketbook.
Hitting Moscow with drones is reasonable and much more lowkey.
Great news is that Israel demolished Iranian drone production, this means Russians are cut off.
I support Trump on many issues. I do not support his involvement in YouCrayne.
YouCrayne is just as corrupt as Ruzzia.
It’s an EU Problem, not an American Problem.
I’m a Free Thinker, not a Kool-Aid Drinker.
As long as Russia continues its daily long-range and hypersonic missiles attacks against civilians apartments in Kiev, there is morally nothing wrong for Ukraine to hit back with long-range missiles as well, but ONLY aiming at strategic targets in Moscow. Like the electrical grid for example... Copycatting what Russia already does to Ukraine makes it doable for Ukraine.
“Why?”
Because didn’t know.
Ha ha ha. What BS.
To be clear, DJT doesn’t “give” anything… he may “sell”.
To stop seemingly intractable wars that keep losses and risks escalating
Think of the shock value of being like a mini Hiroshima
Or starting a fire ( backfire) to stop a bigger fire
The physical losses could be kept in the thousands ( not unprecedented) if the planners thought it would stop a much greater loss
Escalate…to de-escalate
And if the adversary chose to respond…in like kind…it would ( should) be against another military troop concentration
How many would it take before the armies themselves refused to continue?
Or the govts stopped rather than lose their armies.
After all, both sides have these weapons which were obviously not designed for use or even survival in a general war ….so its being talked about
“To be clear, DJT doesn’t “give” anything… he may “sell”.”
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That’s what America has always done.
America rarely gives anything for free.
The UK did the last remaining payment for America’s WWII Lend / Lease program in 2006.
“The USA Made a Lot of Money From WW2: Britain Only Settled Debts from WWII in 2006”
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/britain-only-settled-debts.html
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