Posted on 07/10/2025 9:57:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Alternatively, they could become the 51st State.
IMHO as to fentanyl, if we weren’t buying it, it wouldn’t be coming over the border. Seems to me expecting interdiction of shipments is in that respect a misplaced priority. It takes so little to make a fatal dose, it’s so easy to hide I don’t know how anyone could really stop the flow anyway.
,,, would the US want that many lefties?
Lunacy.
Looks like electing Carney has worked out swimmingly... He didn’t get my vote. Then again... No Liberal ever has.
Good! Canuks have been ripping us off for years while living under our protection.
So the US Government should just say not my problem if thousands of young people die and international gangs maintain a flourishing drug trade?
Your premise is over simplistic. The drugs are being run by cartels and young Americans are targeted, given free drugs to hook them, are given more dangerous drugs to addict them. The drugs are used to manipulate them.
If Canada & Mexico maintained border security the level of these operations would be much lower and US law enforcement would successfully target the internal criminal operations. If people want to do drugs they can seek them out but the problem of younger and younger victims being unknowingly recruited and having their lives destroyed would retreat.
Not to mention the other crimes associated with the drug trade, prostitution, sex slavery, thefts and violence by & between gangs.
If you are going to engage in this kind of hyperbole, this conversation is over.
If Canada & Mexico maintained border security the level of these operations would be much lower and US law enforcement would successfully target the internal criminal operations.
I don't believe your unsupported assertion. Fentanyl is so concentrated that it's too easy to hide for it to be stopped at any border. I don't care if it's Singapore.
Trump’s strategy on this is devious and beautiful. He sweet-talked carney at the beginning. Now he’s turning up the heat from a position of power. Canada is in rough shape.
It is true but beside the point that if Americans weren’t buying fentanyl it would not end up here. Like the US, Canada has a moral and legal obligation to suppress and prosecute the illegal drug trade. Unfortunately, Canada is deeply penetrated by CCP influence and by operatives of the Chinese criminal organizations known as triads. Reportedly, high level political influence in Canada impairs the efforts of Canadian security agencies and law enforcement to combat the drug trade. As a result, fentanyl flows easily from China into Canada and is even manufactured there before being shipped into the US — where it kills many thousands of Americans every year.
All true, and if it wasn't Canada, it could easily be somewhere else.
Every single person should know that taking fentanyl is potentially deadly. Hell, even touching it can be deadly (I'm surprised it isn't used more often as a murder weapon). Everyone should also know that it is so concentrated that it is very hard to control dosage perfectly. Yet even a minor variation in dose in the range of micrograms can kill. It's just too risky.
Why isn't that the message everywhere? I don't see PSAs to that effect. We should be doing everything we can to kill the market. I just don't see import interdiction as cost effective. Try to shut down all manufacturing? The more dispersed it gets the more variable will be the quality control and therefore the danger increases.
It's a horrible problem, frankly made far worse by warehousing out kids in educational institutions where peer groupthink displaces reason.
Many people who take fentanyl do so under false pretenses that it is something else, even something legal. And that fentanyl profitably comes in from Canada due to their laxity makes them responsible. It is no defense to say that someone else would smuggle it in if Canada enforced their laws and treaties against fentanyl.
Yeah, or didn’t he already do this last week and then change his mind or something?
There is demand and there is supply. The US government needs to work more on the demand side (and also the supply side, of course), while the Canadian government meed to work more on the supply side. It’s not just on production but also on trafficking, distribution, etc.
About 20 lbs. of Fentanyl seized on the Canada border in 2024, and around 1,600+ lbs. seized on the Mexico border...where are the massive tariffs on Mexico? Mexico is at 25% currently...should be over 100% based on relative fentanyl damage.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/drug-seizure-statistics
Have you forgotten the 10K Mexican soldiers at the border this year as well as remain in Mexico .
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-first-10000-mexican-troops-border-with-us-2025-02-07/
Furthermore
n 2019, Mexico significantly increased its military presence at both its northern and southern borders in response to pressure from the U.S. government. This deployment involved approximately 15,000 troops on the northern border and 12,000 on the southern border. These deployments were part of Mexico’s efforts to address U.S. concerns about migration flows and the flow of illicit goods, particularly fentanyl, across the border.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/24/americas/mexico-sends-15000-troops-to-us-mexico-border-intl
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/24/americas/mexico-sends-15000-troops-to-us-mexico-border-intl
You don’t believe something I thought waas such common knowledge I didn’t bother to post a reference and you are not motivated to do a simple search.
More than 107,000 people lost their lives to a drug overdose in 2023, with nearly 70 percent of those deaths attributed to opioids such as fentanyl.
During Fiscal Year 2023, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data shows that drug seizures at the northern border, encompassing land, air and maritime operations, totalled 55,100 pounds. This represents an 8% decrease compared to FY 2022 (60,100 pounds) and a 35% decrease compared to FY 2021 (84,900 pounds).
However, despite this overall decrease, some reports indicate increases in specific drug types, particularly fentanyl, being smuggled across the northern border. For example, some sources suggest that drug smuggling across the Northern border increased by nearly 600% since Fiscal Year 2021, including a 26% increase in fentanyl. Another source mentions that CBP recorded 2 pounds of fentanyl seizures at the northern border in FY 2023.
It is important to note that the vast majority of drugs seized at the northern border, approximately 98%, were intercepted at official ports of entry.
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