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Ukraine demands Russia lay out terms before negotiations continue
The Washington Times ^ | May 30, 2025 | Vaughn Cockayne

Posted on 05/30/2025 1:02:04 PM PDT by McGruff

Ukraine rejected calls from Moscow and Washington to commit to engaging in peace talks with Russia next week, demanding to see Russian peace proposals before attending further negotiations.

In nationally televised remarks on Friday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, said Kyiv is dedicated, in principle, to continued peace negotiations with Russia. However, he stopped short of agreeing to the proposed Monday peace talks in Istanbul.

“We are ready for dialogue, but we demand clarity — clear and, most importantly, balanced proposals,” Mr. Yermak said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: russiahascards; surrenderterms; trump; ukrainehasnocards; zeepermagicunicorns
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1 posted on 05/30/2025 1:02:04 PM PDT by McGruff
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They want to subject the Russian proposal to ridicule with the aid of the “Western Chorus”...prior to meeting.

As has been the norm, Russia says they will present their written position at the next meeting.

Just like the Viet Nam war was negotiated. Privately. Quietly.


2 posted on 05/30/2025 1:09:30 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: McGruff

I believe Vlad is channeling one of his heroes, Leonid Brezhnev. Brezhnev was famous for his negotiation method: “What’s mine is mine, what’s yours is negotiable.”


3 posted on 05/30/2025 1:15:16 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: McGruff

Ukraine is run by very stupid people and is in no position to demand anything.


4 posted on 05/30/2025 1:17:04 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: McGruff

Zelinsky is not the president of Ukraine. His term in office expired two years ago and he forbids democratic elections. Who side are we on again?


5 posted on 05/30/2025 1:24:46 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Mariner

Rather, Ukraine was to see concrete proposals rather than vague statements. There is no reason for Russia to keep their proposals secret. Ukraine will eventually make them public in any case.


6 posted on 05/30/2025 1:26:36 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: SaxxonWoods

If Ukraine is so stupid, why hasn’t Russia taken over Ukraine during the last three and a half years and losing a factory a day by drone and 1,ooo soldiers every day?


7 posted on 05/30/2025 1:28:01 PM PDT by POGO163
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And the war will continue.


8 posted on 05/30/2025 1:29:50 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: McGruff

And the war will continue.


9 posted on 05/30/2025 1:29:51 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: McGruff

And the war will continue.


10 posted on 05/30/2025 1:29:53 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: McGruff

And the war will continue.


11 posted on 05/30/2025 1:29:54 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey
Zelinsky is not the president of Ukraine. His term in office expired two years ago and he forbids democratic elections.

It seems that you are not familiar with the Ukrainian constitution and its laws. In times of national emergency (which a war surely is) elections are forbidden and the president's term is prorogated. Zelensky is indeed the legitimate president of Ukraine.

12 posted on 05/30/2025 1:30:06 PM PDT by Petrosius
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"If Ukraine is so stupid, why hasn’t Russia taken over Ukraine during the last three and a half years and losing a factory a day by drone and 1,ooo soldiers every day?"

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Ukraine is stupid because they have over 1,000,000 dead soldiers because NATO wanted to expand eastward for no good reason and Ukraine decided to fight for NATO over that.

Stupid!!!!

13 posted on 05/30/2025 1:33:40 PM PDT by Neanderthal (GETTING TIRED OF WINNING!!)
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“Ukraine was to see concrete proposals rather than vague statements”

They have done so on multiple occasions. They are the 5 oblasts, demilitarization and no NATO.

There’s no reason to think those are going to change.


14 posted on 05/30/2025 1:37:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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If Ukraine is so stupid, why hasn’t Russia taken over Ukraine during the last three and a half years and losing a factory a day by drone and 1,ooo soldiers every day?

The truly stupid people are the ones who don't know a lower case 'o' is not the same as a zero. 4th Grade dropout lecturing on international relations.

15 posted on 05/30/2025 1:38:26 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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I say just let both sides kill each other. It's what they want.

Zelensky hasn't unsigned his own formal declaration of never meeting Putin, so he won't meet Putin. Putin won't stop. Zelensky always maintains no loss of Ukraine is allowable, yet, plenty has been lost.

Zelensky wants the war to continue to bring him millions of dollars he will continue to pocket. That is it.

Putin wants more land that is close to Moscow.

It's incredibly easy to see where this goes, as “Other People's Money” finally dries up.

Poland, say “Hello” to your new Russian friend.

16 posted on 05/30/2025 1:47:26 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Putin’s demands go well beyond that. Zelensky wants Russia to make them public, official, and specific.


17 posted on 05/30/2025 1:49:17 PM PDT by Petrosius
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Just like the Viet Nam war was negotiated. Privately. Quietly.
>br> Negotiations there didn't turn out too well for the U.S. or for Vietnam.

You can't deal with terrorists, and Putin is the biggest terrorist around now.
18 posted on 05/30/2025 1:52:16 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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Ukraine is stupid because they have over 1,000,000 dead soldiers because NATO wanted to expand eastward for no good reason and Ukraine decided to fight for NATO over that.

Still buying that lie? It was Ukraine that was demanding it, not NATO. NATO kept saying no. Furthermore, by NATO's own charter Ukraine was barred from joining as long as there Russia was occupying Ukrainian land and there was a border dispute. But this will not stop Russian apologists from repeating this false claim.

19 posted on 05/30/2025 1:52:18 PM PDT by Petrosius
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This “demand” is so transparently in bad faith it's kind of annoying.

Russia has already provided a terms sheet and the Ukraine is fully aware of the Russian position.

This is one more case of Zelensky is actively working to torpedo any peace agreement while disingenuously trying to posture and position himself as the peacemaker. .

20 posted on 05/30/2025 1:53:48 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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