Trust me: Trump’s revolution is coming to the UK

The Spectator ^ | 05/29/2025 | Charlie Kirk

[DIRTYSECRET]

Elon for PM. That’ll fix them.

[hinckley buzzard]

Interesting. Kirk induces such rage among the lefties, quite entertaining.

[MinorityRepublican]

Over and over, they told me they were ready to smash the British party system to bits and elect a Reform prime minister.

Reform can win up to 45% of the popular vote and fail to form a government. The Tories would rather form a coalition with the Labour Party.

[monkeyshine]

There won’t be an election until 2029 unless Labor, which has a singular majority (no other parties in the coalition) calls for one. The only way I can see these globalist leftists willingly give up power is if there is major upheaval in the streets of the UK.

[FLT-bird]

I watched his debate at Cambridge I believe? It was one of them. Its up on Youtube and is a little over an hour. As someone who was on the debate team in high school and got a JD, I'll give my impression of the students.

They were for the most part, simply incapable of conducting a debate. Every single one I saw would have lost any high school debate tournament I was in and they'd get slapped with contempt in any courtroom in America. They would have lost because they don't have the foggiest idea how to debate....or even how to carry out a reasoned discussion. Their "debate style" is to talk as fast as they can, throw out various spurious accusations combined with snide comments and insults, attempt to filibuster by monopolizing every last second of time, then constantly interrupt once its the other side's turn to speak/answer.

They can not bear to hear anything that is contrary to the Leftist dogma they've been indoctrinated with. For example, the guy he was talking about who knew there was a civil war in Sudan and a border conflict in Burma (Myanmar) called the conflict in Gaza a "genocide". No its not. Not by any definition. He also didn't want to acknowledge that HAMAS started it. HAMAS violates the Geneva Convention by not wearing uniforms (thus making it far more likely civilians will be killed). HAMAS operates from schools, hospitals and mosques again in violation of the Geneva Convention. HAMAS committed all sorts of war crimes against civilians as per the terms of the Geneva Convention and then proudly livestreamed much of it on the internet.

The same dork made a snide comment about how it doesn't matter or its worthless that President Trump is trying to end the war in Ukraine because he hasn't succeeded yet in the first 100 days. So if you're not an instant success at something its worthless to try I guess. He also didn't want to acknowledge that President Trump and his administration played a key role in getting the border conflict between India and Pakistan stopped. In short, he was just the usual hopeless biased, arrogant, loudmouthed Leftist. He was typical of a lot of them.

[monkeyshine]

Sang thing they did in Germany and France. They simply refused to form a coalition with the party that one the most votes.

Then they went crazy and banned the politicians from running, or invoking arcane statutes that allow them to spy on the opposition or in the case of one country just throwing the elections results out and calling for a new election. Europe may already be too far gone to reform itself.

[AndyJackson]

When is it coming to the United States Congress.

[rrrod]

Nope.

[Biblebelter]

You are correct.

The American system is rigged and as Trump said after gaining the nomination in 2016 he beat a rigged system.

Well in the UK and in the EU the system is so rigged it is unbeatable.

[Danie_2023]

“”Well in the UK and in the EU the system is so rigged it is unbeatable.””

Seems to me that Australia and Canada systems are also rigged. Ergo, the term “global”. Those filthy rich cretins that meet in Davos might be the ones to look to for some much needed, if not delayed, justice. JS...

[jpl]

I certainly hope that Kirk is right.

For a minute or two it looked like a movement towards common sense was going to prevail in Canada as well, right up until the moment Trump started making those dumb and pointless jokes about annexation.

[AZJeep]

Nigel Farage is doing great job over there!
Since Brexit, EU cannot interfere with British elections like they did in e.g. Romania.
It seems that most of Tories are switching to Reform, so they can now take over
So, there is good chance!

[Tom Tetroxide]

Tommy Robinson alluded to this in his interview by Ezra Levant of Rebel News after just getting out of prison again.
It’s 54 minutes long, but worth the time to watch/listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czDaH0GOU4Y

[Teacher317]

What you say is all correct, and it is all irrelevant. Debates like that are NOT going to educate or change the devout and vocal opposition. They're gone forever. The debates are for the OBSERVERS, to let the world see the differences in the two sides... differences in their approach, their demeanor, their logic, their response to difficult questions, their consistency, etc etc etc. THAT is what changes the few open hearts and minds out there. THAT is what brings grass-roots cultural sways.

(That and the entertainment industries, sadly... but lately I notice a LOT more praise to the Almighty after victories in sporting events, and I think that is a positive trend.)

[GOPJ]

But being clever is not the same as being wise. If Oxbridge students were long on wit, they were short on wisdom.

Sounds like the fools at our 'elite' colleges... except here it's long on BS and short on wisdom...

[fuzzylogic]

I know I’ve mentioned before - I was born and raised there.

I know *exactly* where this snotty nosed, arrogant, petulant, etc., attitude comes from. A large part, their religion is leftism. It is bred into them, *very* few have ever attended Church or have Christian parents. It’s the biggest delta I experienced when I arrived here as a teenager.

They grow up with this notion, reinforced by the government and media, that the NHS is the best thing ever - that when the government gives a directive, it is in the best interest of the ‘collective’, and they accept it as morally superior over individual rights. The concept of ‘rights given as a gift from GOD’, immutable by government, has never been taught. It’s almost as though the ‘collective unity’ required to win WWII carried over into the culture for the following decades. If the government says so, it must be good. It’s why free speech has been allowed to be eroded, they think it’s justifiable because the law says so.

It took me a while to grasp; the best interests of the collective ARE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS FIRST, NON-NEGOTIABLE. It’s the only way to limit government.

You could tell, collectively, they were mocking the very idea of an intellectual debate. It was just a big ‘gotcha fest joke’, with who could try to belittle him the best. They were coming from largely white, middle to upper class kids, that don’t experience the realities hitting the working class - like those being sent to prison for free speech. They’ve been immersed with ‘speak against incoming cultures just makes you a racist’ mantra. Tommy Robinson being public enemy #1 - if his name had come up, I can guarantee you what the prevailing attitude would have been (racist).

The ‘what happens there comes here’ has been very true. Up until the left decided there were no limits to their insanity and USA *Christian* culture pushed back - they don’t have this, Churches empty for decades. They are now behind us. These kids were clueless about what is changing. I heard this years’ Easter saw the largest Church attendance in recent memory.

The UK has executed 1984 as the play book - these kids are the last in line believing it all. I’ve always kept on eye on the UK, it’s so sad to see their blindness to where they’re headed.

[Bob Wills is still the king]

“There won’t be an election until 2029 unless Labor, which has a singular majority (no other parties in the coalition) calls for one. The only way I can see these globalist leftists willingly give up power is if there is major upheaval in the streets of the UK.”
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Ask the Irish how upheaval in the streets worked out for them.

[FLT-bird]

I don’t disagree with you. I was just pointing out how intellectually bankrupt these supposedly “smart” students were. When they leave their little leftist hothouses and go out into engineering, business etc, people don’t care about the story you tell. You better have facts and evidence to back it up or you’re toast. Nobody cares about your fashionable (among elitist leftists) opinions. These students have not been educated. They’ve only been indoctrinated.

[fr_freak]

Ask the Irish how upheaval in the streets worked out for them.

Upheaval in the streets against a foreign occupying power is different than upheaval in the streets against your own government, many of whom live on those streets next to you. The Irish are getting a bit riled up now as we speak, so we'll see how things turn out this go-round.