Posted on 05/23/2025 11:46:28 AM PDT by Mariner
Donald Trump says that iPhones need to be built in the US, or they'll face a 25% tariff.
But it doesn't matter what Trump says: iPhones are never going to be built in the US.
That's according to Patrick McGee, a journalist who just published "Apple In China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company" — a detailed look at all of the money and effort Apple spent over decades to enmesh itself in China.
McGee, who has covered Apple for the Financial Times, explains why this has been enormously helpful to Apple — because it created an ecosystem that lets it make ultra-complicated devices at vast scale. But he argues that it was even more helpful to China — because Apple gave Chinese engineers access to valuable technology that has let them build other high-value supply chains.
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They have created a $300 billion annual ecosystem whcih has become the foundation of multiple digital enterprises in China.
I argue they are enemies of the American people and 25% tariff should be raised to 200% along with a National Security Directive that they cannot be present in any Federal building anywhere.
Burn them to the ground for the harm they have caused to the American people through their enablement of the Chinese.
Well, duh. He’s sending all the child slaves back to their home countries. Everybody knows child labor is the most critical component in Apple products.
That’s the reason I don’t have a chiPhone.
Or any other Apple products.
I’ll keep buying Samsung, thank you very much.
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see also: post #2
Is the same going to be applied to every tech company who’s hardware is manufactured in China, or are we singling out Apple because of the Left-leaning homosexual CEO? (Even though Apple has a demonstrably better record on personal information/privacy)?
And before anyone jumps to unmerited conclusions- I have said for decades that it has been a MASSIVE mistake farming out our tech to China. They have NEVER been our friends (including when they were given “most favorable trade” status. China has been functionally at war with the USA for many many years - war against US companies, war against US patents and trademarks, war against the US tech sector... all while “we” handed them the tools and doorways to our own destruction.
And this is far from an Apple problem. Every major tech company has all or a a majority of their hardware manufactured in China.
in re: post #2 and post #5; JK!😜 LOL! 😆
“everyone knows”... except that this is blatantly false. Indeed, while many brands (such as Nike shoes and apparel) are known to utilize production lines that do use child labor, Apple has been under a microscope for many years - and their products are manufactured on the highest- paid, and best-conditions facilities in China - and child labor is explicitly forbidden in their contracts.
And again, this has been hashed and re-hashed many times over the years. Your hate for Apple needs to be targeted at the actual flaws and practices that are real, not made up propaganda. You sound like a raging Leftist when you do that.
That’s all I’ve been hearing today is the whining of why they can’t do it.
Pretty pathetic, considering that they made all of the wrong choices and now set to pay a price.
Too late. The gop and dems sold out to communist chinese long ago. Trump is tougher on Europe than communist china though, even after the chinese covid spread, ip theft, military threats, etc etc. Pretty oddd.
Am I right, President Ramaphosa!? Up high!
So what? Just make the tariffs the same as any other Chinese product. F Apple. How is that Purism can make smartphones in the USA with electronics sourced here and assembled here???
I didn’t see anything in the article that indicates that iPhones can’t be produced in the U.S.
Even if it takes a few years to build the infrastructure to manufacture the iPhones in the U.S., it MUST be done.
“Pretty pathetic, considering that they made all of the wrong choices and now set to pay a price.”
It is pathetic, short sighted, and bad for america. But, when you say Apple has to pay a price, think through what that means. Apple is the third largest US company by revenue, third largest by market cap, employees about 165,000 in the US. and provides the #1 phone in the US market. So crushing Apple here is going to to hurt more than Tim Cook.
Apple, and many other companies, gave away its know how in exchange for slave rate labor.
It is hard to reverse, but it surely can be done.
It would cost Apple a lot of money, but, they should be smart and not start at China in the first place.
It cost them a lot to move over there, they can move back!
While your reply is rather off-topic...
I still remember folks warning about the CURRENT South African mess (genocide) even as the world was conspiring to remove the “Boer” government.
Apple is the biggest and most visible of the lot.
Take down Goliath and the rest will surrender.
“Every major tech company has all or a a majority of their hardware manufactured in China.”
Not so. Many do, but several are making concerted and real movements to other locations. Others are centered in Taiwan, Korea, Malaysia and Japan. And India is rising.
I am guessing you have never worked in microelectronics. For a few years I was in manufacture of modules for critical military applications, from spacecraft to radar. These went up to 18GHz, which in the late 90s was way up there. The whole factory in Silicon Valley was populated with Philippina women. NOBODY else could wire bond with .0007 gold wire onto .002 pads with repeatability and precision. If they could, we would have hired them.
I'm not defending Apple here. I am saying that not everybody can do that kind of work and it takes a large population of potential candidates to find them.
Wait - so Apple’s efforts to shift production to other countries (out of China) don’t matter, right?
“NOBODY else could wire bond with .0007 gold wire onto .002 pads with repeatability and precision. “
No one hand wires such things. Robots do that work.
Also, 18GHz was chump change in the late 1990’s. We were WAY past that by then.
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