She didnt even have a pecker and blew this guys penis off on the side of the road during a traffic stop. Nothing naughty about any of that is there? I cant remember if that was a femoral artery hit or not.
Posted on 04/17/2025 4:22:02 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
Apparently, it has become a “red flag” for law enforcers when a victim of their enforcement insists on asserting their rights under the law. As for instance their right not to hand over ID just because an enforcer demands to see it. The law is that this is the law only when a crime or at least some infraction – such as jaywalking – has been committed or the enforcer has solid grounds for believing a crime or offense has been or is about to be committed
Interestingly, it is not a crime for law enforcers to violate this law.
As you can see in the video accompanying this article. It shows a man who’d stopped to wait out a thunderstorm in the parking lot of a gas station/convenience store being first hassled – and then arrested – for politely declining to produce his “papers” when ordered to by first one and then three law enforcers.
Apparently, the cashier in the store sicced the law on the man because she was “worried” about his being parked outside, where he was reading a book inside his car. Though not a crime – or an offense – it was enough to trigger the man’s eventual arrest.
When questioned by the first enforcer who arrived on scene, the man explained what he was doing and when the law enforcer told him the store clerk was “worried,” he offered to leave – which ought to have been the end of the interaction. It is important to point out here that the store clerk never asked the man to leave and there were no signs saying people could not park and sit for more than a specific period of time. The man was driving a recent-model car, was neatly dressed and nothing about him or what he’d been doing suggested anything to be “worried” or “suspicious” about – especially after he’d explained why he’d been waiting.
It wasn’t enough.
The enforcers insisted he produce his “papers.” The man – to his credit – continued to decline, pointing out that he’d committed no crime or even infraction, though the law enforcers conjured one – “loitering” and then “trespassing” – even though he’d done neither. One of the cops went into the store to get the cashier-clerk to agree that she wanted the man “trespassed” from the premises. But he never “trespassed” in the first place, as the civil rights lawyer who posted the video explains. A “trespasser” is someone who goes where he has no business being. And goes there despite having been told he has no business being there by the owner of the property. This was a parking lot in front of a gas station/store – a place where people are expected to park, in other words. And no one asked the man to leave, so the “trespassing” argument is fatuous. No, that’s not quite right. It was concocted – to give the enforcers an excuse/pretext to arrest the man for refusing to give them his “papers.”
The bottom line is the enforcers were determined to show who’s boss – the law be damned. One of them even said that it’s a “red flag” when a citizen asserts his rights under the law, though of course he did not say it that way. He said – essentially – that not following orders (irrespective of their legality) is a “crime” and that it’s got to be punished. In this case, by arresting a man who’d committed no crime and who was doing all he could to de-escalate the situation.
The man could and hopefully will sue the enforcers – who of course will not be held personally accountable for their crimes. Which is of course exactly why these enforcers are so glib about committing crimes. The rest of us – even the worst among us – are held in check by the thought of consequences. Real ones. Not a paid vacation. Rather, the prospect of being ruined, financially, as a consequence of losing a civil suit.
But enforcers don’t have to worry about that because others get to be held accountable. The people who had nothing to do with the crime. The taxpayers of the city/county or town that employed the enforcers. They get to pay – via increased property taxes, for instance. Or by more “tickets” – issued by the enforcers.
Or, as happened to me, in the hands of women who think they have big peckers?
Who watches the watchers?
If one of them ever calls you a “civilian” ask him if he’s subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
When he says ‘No’ then remind him, he’s a civilian too.
Compulsion to show ID varies by state
She didnt even have a pecker and blew this guys penis off on the side of the road during a traffic stop. Nothing naughty about any of that is there? I cant remember if that was a femoral artery hit or not.
Fortunately my state - Kentucky - does not have a “stop and identify” law.
I think every adult should learn what the law requires in their state on this.
I got seriously harrassed by a female cop on my property in Lakeland, FL about 25 years ago and that served to kill any willingness I had in putting up with that sh*t. Unless it’s in my personal interest, cops get nothing from me. I don’t hate cops, but I’m not going to be a doormat either.
The whole “I don’t have to hand over ID” thing is not true—at least in my state. You don’t have to talk to them, but you have to provide them with ID if they request it.
It’s funny, my niece is a public defender. Every once in a while she is handed a sovereign citizen to deal with. Usually, after a couple of days in County they start to deal with the system. Judges have very little tolerance for their stuff.
They need to weed out the ones who think their $hit is ice cream.
loitering….
The definition, at least in NY in 1981 was the gathering of two or more people conspiring to commit a crime.
Don’t ask me how I know.
Even in states where it’s not compulsory, the cops still have big heads and think you need to show it.
Last time I was pulled over (expired plate) the Trooper informed me that I was being recorded. I replied “That’s ok. So are you.”
The fleet company neglected to send the new stickers but they had renewed me. Just a warning.
Nevertheless, always record every police interaction.
Woman. Woman making something out of nothing. Crime for being a guy.
Woman. Woman making something out of nothing. Crime for being a guy.
Most are just govt gangs with badges. They’ll cover for each other and you’re toast.
Which state is your state, pray tell?
“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker
The people’s republic of MA.
Thanks. One more state to avoid.
Th them [Police] it is a crime to assert your rights. And they take it as a personal challenge to them when one does assert one's rights. They are trained that it is "Us vs Them". They are the US. We are the Them. And "Them" are criminals who they haven't caught yet. Asserting one's Right with today's Police is a good way to get the Hell beat out of you, shot, or both. If you don't believe that, go to Youtube.com and watch the Police Body Cam clips. These are right from the horse's mouth. They don't think they have big peckers. They are just being serviced by small needle dick males.
I can remember when Cops were good people. I can’t say that now about the Police in Florida, judging by mt interaction with them.
I now live live in Alabama and the difference is from night to day. My every encounter with the Police has been pleasant. One could not ask to be treated any better.
That is the ones they like. “They” being those who do hiring. They like the ones who make bogus traffic stops. And trump up charges to make false arrests. They make money for the City and County.
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