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California losing another refinery, impacting AZ and NV; fuel shortages possible
https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/article_8b775352-039d-4c2f-afc5-99f841870729.html ^ | 4/16/25 | Kenneth Schrupp

Posted on 04/17/2025 2:30:09 AM PDT by CFW

With Valero announcing the pending closure of one of its two remaining California refineries, the state will lose at least 18% of its current refining capacity by the end of 2026.

Because California is an “energy island,” meeting demand for California and the parts of Nevada and Arizona that rely on its refineries will require costly imports of volatile fuel by emissions-heavy tanker ships.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has long blamed rising gas prices on refiners’ “price gouging,” but even though his own administration has said that it has no found no evidence of such, he called a special legislative session last year to pass new refinery regulations that both Democratic and Republican governors of neighboring states warned would lead to price hikes and supply shortages.

Now, with the closure announcement, the warnings from the energy industry and regional leaders are coming to fruition.

These new regulations empower the state to determine when refineries are allowed to shut down for maintenance and set new inventory storage requirements that would require refineries to build vast new storage tanks to smooth out shortages.

With the state’s ban on the sale of new gas-powered cars in 2035, new refineries are not being built, leaving remaining refineries operating at nearly 100% capacity at all times. As a result, outages at even a single refinery result in spikes in gas prices.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: arizona; calif; california; creepstate; deepstate; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; energy; gasoline; gavinnewsom; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; interstatecommerce; kennethschrupp; nevada; policestate; refineries; singlepartystate
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Unfortunately, what happens in California doesn't stay in California.

Gas prices in surrounding states will increase as well due to their ridiculous "green" regulations.

1 posted on 04/17/2025 2:30:09 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

Yep, the dumb SOB is going to take down several states with them.


2 posted on 04/17/2025 2:37:08 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

Best Top off my Rig as it’s gonna be a Long Summer.


3 posted on 04/17/2025 2:44:29 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: CFW

Seems masochistic to me. Like shooting yourself in the foot, then shooting the other foot just for good measure. Everything this idiot governor and his cast of looneys have done has been wrong and harmful. Now Gov. Numbnuts want to sue Pres. Trump for “illegal tariffs”. Billions and billions in debt, wants the feds to bail Calefecal out and at the same time wants to sue. What an ass.


4 posted on 04/17/2025 2:53:27 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan ( )
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To: CFW

A state that continues to cut their own throat and is directly linked to the radical left that continues to steal to enrich themselves


5 posted on 04/17/2025 3:13:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: ronnie raygun

I’m sure little Pelosi will have plenty of gasoline & water for himself.
It’s just the common people, you know, the knaves, who will suffer.


6 posted on 04/17/2025 3:17:04 AM PDT by Fireone (1.Avoid crowds 2.Head on a swivel 3.Be prepared to protect & defend those around you 4.Avoid crowds)
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To: Big Red Badger

We have two bulk pipeline sources. One in Vegas and one in Phoenix. This sounds like it will affect the one in Vegas and the north part of the State. Those closer to Phoenix “might” not get hit as hard.

But you can bet, even if it does cost less at the Bulk Rack in Phoenix they will jack up the price to match the northern source. They are going to get together and price fix this situation universally state wide anyhow.

I was in the industry and price fixing is the name of the game with the bulk supply/transporters. They are crooked as hell. I don’t think they even compensate for temperature anymore.


7 posted on 04/17/2025 3:18:29 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Omnivore-Dan

“Seems masochistic to me. Like shooting yourself in the foot, then shooting the other foot just for good measure. Everything this idiot governor and his cast of looneys have done has been wrong and harmful.”

Problem is they live in a fantasy alternate reality. In their mind if you completely remove oil it will automatically create a clean Utopia. Oil is not needed. Reality and cause and effect is always an after thought when the policies end up NOT working like they wanted it too.

They just cannot put two and two together ahead of time so that there is no resulting failure. And the final true goal and result of all this alternate reality is the reduction of the species. They purposely want to kill off people. Every policy they make is geared to towards inevitable population reduction.


8 posted on 04/17/2025 3:35:16 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

“Every policy they make is geared to towards inevitable population reduction.” Well then, who will be the slaves? Got to have taxpaying slaves.


9 posted on 04/17/2025 3:43:10 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan ( )
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To: CFW

When California relies heavily on trucks bringing in fuel I’d be charging massive import fees to California. In fact any diesel or gas truck hauling goods into California should charge massive import fees. Let the EV state suffer.


10 posted on 04/17/2025 3:47:00 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Fireone

Pelosi recently bought a multimillion dollar oceanfront home in Florida. Lucifer’s handmaiden hardly cares about how destroyed Ca is. She will be laughing about it while sipping martinis flavored with the blood of children.


11 posted on 04/17/2025 3:51:09 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: CFW

Let them all eat ev.


12 posted on 04/17/2025 3:55:53 AM PDT by Recompennation
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To: Omnivore-Dan

They will of course keep enough young Zombie workers around to wipe their rear ends for them. But “money”? There won’t be any money. Only stature, rank, and power in the Utopian green communist society. No money is needed when everything belongs to the powerful. They will control who gets what and when. So money for “self choice” will be useless anyhow. There will not be any self choice. Everyone will be equally poor but them.


13 posted on 04/17/2025 3:58:53 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

The dumb SOB has help, doesn’t he?

Do you see Sacremento stopping this?

CA, wanna save your state?

SECURE YOUR DAMNED ELECTIONS.


14 posted on 04/17/2025 4:00:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Openurmind
If it’s possible, produce your own energy. Then figure out how best to utilize it. I can’t produce my own gasoline; if I could we’d do most of our driving in the gas pickup. But I can produce most of the power we need through solar. Therefore we do most of our driving in the EV car.

But it takes a good amount of homework on your part to see if it can be done in your area feasibly and for your particular driving habits and other energy consumption habits. The Dims are wrong to push EV’s and solar and wind as though they’re one-size-fits-all. But us conservatives are also wrong if we knee-jerk and assume they’re not good for any situation. I think of it as me putting the kind of effort into it to try to find more and more ways to wean myself off of the overly regulated and manipulated energy market, so the bureaucrats are less able to find more and more ways to take away my freedoms and money.

15 posted on 04/17/2025 4:02:06 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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“When California relies heavily on trucks bringing in fuel I’d be charging massive import fees to California.”

I think they should be boycotted altogether... Let them live without enough fuel to function for awhile and see how they like it. They think they don’t need any so give them that oil free Utopia they want.


16 posted on 04/17/2025 4:02:34 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I think that Florida rumor was debunked. I know the place she was allegedly buying, and she didn’t.
In my post, I was referring to Newsome, as “little Pelosi”.


17 posted on 04/17/2025 4:07:57 AM PDT by Fireone (1.Avoid crowds 2.Head on a swivel 3.Be prepared to protect & defend those around you 4.Avoid crowds)
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To: Openurmind

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others” George Orwell. Should be read in every school today.


18 posted on 04/17/2025 4:23:32 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan ( )
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To: CFW

It’s flat out Communism. Read the article. Democrats have literally seized the means of production and are engaged in central planning. And the guaranteed outcome of structural shortages is nearly at hand.

Democrats are Communists. California is proof.


19 posted on 04/17/2025 4:32:48 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Tell It Right

I’m living off grid right now. On a smaller scale solar and wind work just fine and is plenty if you use minimalist “camping” mentality. And I can still alcohol from any sort of vegetable matter that has some starches in it if need be. If worse comes to worse even steam still works fine or a couple mules.

In the longer run the problem with EVs are the batteries degrading. Same with solar, eventually the batteries and panels degrade, and they degrade sooner than claimed too. 25 years for panels is actually only 10 especially in warmer climates. The only way to continue using them and extend usability is if you are running a 36v or 24v system then you have to reduce your whole system to 12v.

In fact I am doing that right now. All across the country right now they are replacing 36 volt home system panels because they have degraded. So take off panels are very cheap or even free. Just ended up with a car trailer of take offs for free to dispose of them. Each panel has three 12v cell circuits in series.

I rewire and divide these up into two cell circuits at 24 volts. The third spare cell in the panel I run a jumper to the panel next to it and create another series circuit with the spare cell on the second panel. So basically I take two 38v panels, divide them up cell/circuit wise and turn them into three 24v panels. The cells are not smart enough to know if they are actually in the same “frame” or not.

And this is replicated for every two panels up to as many as you want wired in parallel. Then I make that output at 24 volts my input to the charge controller for a 12 volt system. In this way I can extend the life of the panels at least another ten years or more on a 12v system even though they are too weak to supply a 36v system. Now why a 12v system? Because I am 12v dependent with my pull trailer. And I can jump the batteries with my vehicle if I have to. Or jump the vehicle from the solar battery bank in reverse. And I have a portable 12v generator I made that has a gas engine driving a 100 amp car alternator to top off the batteries on cloudy days if need be. And it is dual functional as a portable arc welder.

The whole name of the game is reducing your needs and demand first... It is a lifestyle, learn to camp and live without some things and it is cheap and easy to live off grid...

Yep, I am already all over the top of that. Living it... :)


20 posted on 04/17/2025 5:04:37 AM PDT by Openurmind
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