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Crimson Slide: Harvard Students Offered High School Basic Math Course
Jonathan Turley ^ | April 8, 2025 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 04/08/2025 9:41:43 AM PDT by george76

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1 posted on 04/08/2025 9:41:43 AM PDT by george76
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Have read that MIT is doing the same - which is quite shocking, because its a STEM school


2 posted on 04/08/2025 9:42:40 AM PDT by PGR88
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Here is the description of the Math MA5 course

https://www.math.harvard.edu/course/ma5/

The study of functions and their rates of change. Fundamental ideas of calculus are introduced early and used to provide a framework for the study of mathematical modeling involving algebraic, exponential, and logarithmic functions. A thorough understanding of differential calculus is promoted by year-long reinforcement.


3 posted on 04/08/2025 9:45:42 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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Harvard Community College.

(Don't know what a slide rule is for.)

4 posted on 04/08/2025 9:45:58 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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Do a google image search for “accepted into all the ivies”. All will be revealed.


5 posted on 04/08/2025 9:46:51 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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Harvard, Columbia, New York University, the University of Pennsylvania and Barnard College. worst universities for free speech:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4262966/posts


6 posted on 04/08/2025 9:48:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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High stakes standardized tests do not include test questions which perform in a disparate manner among ethnicities. Test questions included in an exam perform equitably across the racial spectrum. This has been discussed at the school level, and yet give it a few years and the accusation of racism arises again.


7 posted on 04/08/2025 9:53:23 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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The class meets 5 days a week.

I should guess so. :-)


8 posted on 04/08/2025 9:54:42 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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Have read that MIT is doing the same - which is quite shocking, because its a STEM school

Is MIT still a STEM school? It acts like it's more of a leftist indoctrination school with a large math department.

9 posted on 04/08/2025 9:54:52 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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......standardized tests have been found to be the most predictive measure of success in college.....

Then keep using them! No more DEI!


10 posted on 04/08/2025 9:55:15 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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So in high school, the smart kids take "AP Math". And at Harvard, the special kids take "DEI Math." Got it.

I wonder if the school has to mark the door of the classroom with some kind of special insignia so the special kids can figure out which door to enter. It's not like they could label it Room 227, or something like that.

11 posted on 04/08/2025 9:59:28 AM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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MIT returned to using SATs in admissions!

With so many students who apply to MIT, Harvard, etc. taking AP Calculus in high school, there is no excuse for admitting math-deficient students to elite colleges!

By the way, I advance-placed one term of Calculus at MIT. Math was my worst subject at MIT—I got all C’s. But I got nearly all A’s in everything else (even Organic Chemistry), and won an NSF Graduate Fellowship, which I used at Harvard.

Harvard undergraduates can afford to get C’s in Math, if they get mainly A’s. But students who can’t pass Math don’t belong in elite colleges.


12 posted on 04/08/2025 10:06:57 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Not surprising in the least. The “top university” mantra hasn’t been true in a long time. At this point in our history, going to a ‘name’ university is like buying the equivalent of Levi’s for $1,500 because there’s some Italian name affixed to them. Except it’s a lot more expensive.


13 posted on 04/08/2025 10:15:30 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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Remedial writing courses were mandatory when I was a freshman in 1978 at Temple University in Philadelphia.

For me they were redundant since I attended a high school with good college prep classes.


14 posted on 04/08/2025 10:20:20 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER REV; NIEMOLLER)
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Yeah. High school level basic differential calculus.

NOT EVEN INTEGRAL CALCULUS. Which I took in HS. (No AP classes then, just “Enriched” level classes like English IV E ; or as Chem 2, Physics 2, Numeric Analysis, Calculus. These were all college-level classes accepted for credit at the universities at time.

Differential Calculus, then Integral Calculus were a REQUIRED minimum freshman year math classes for engineering and the sciences at A&M.

Unless you are an (illiterate) English or Arts or Political Science student, no student at the “Ivy League” level of schools should be able to hand in an application form without at least full college-level math and English classes already in-hand.


15 posted on 04/08/2025 10:43:16 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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Students beware; there must be a way the so-called instructors can work wokeism and CRT into a basic math course.


16 posted on 04/08/2025 10:58:04 AM PDT by DPMD
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My university used to have “development studies” courses for math and reading (which did not count towards graduation). It included grade-school level math classes. When I was on a committee hearing appeals from students (for being suspended) there was one student who had failed grade school math six times. She was a social work major.


17 posted on 04/08/2025 10:59:12 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Tom Lehrer is still around at 96. Get him to teach the course.

He started studying math at Harvard when he was 15 and never killed anyone.


18 posted on 04/08/2025 11:06:23 AM PDT by x
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I retired from New York State in 2003. Several years prior to that, during the push for Affirmative Action, the NY State Police were offering free remedial reading classes at CUNY to entice more minorities to apply to take the State Trooper exam.

In January 2023, CUNY issued this notice:

CUNY Ends Traditional Remedial Courses

A month later, the NY Post offered this article:

Nearly half of NYC DOE grads at CUNY need remedial classes

19 posted on 04/08/2025 11:19:58 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Colleges have been teaching Bonehead English to incoming freshmen for decades. Now they’re teaching Bonehead Math?


20 posted on 04/08/2025 11:24:06 AM PDT by Publius
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