Posted on 03/12/2025 6:36:21 PM PDT by Mariner
NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia has presented the U.S. with a list of demands for a deal to end its war against Ukraine and reset relations with Washington, according to two people familiar with the matter.
It is not clear what exactly Moscow included on its list or whether it is willing to engage in peace talks with Kyiv prior to their acceptance. Russian and American officials discussed the terms during in-person and virtual conversations over the last three weeks, the people said.
They described the Kremlin's terms as broad and similar to demands it previously has presented to Ukraine, the U.S. and NATO.
Those earlier terms included no NATO membership for Kyiv, an agreement not to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine and international recognition of President Vladimir Putin's claim that Crimea and four provinces belong to Russia.
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And if it does not impinge on US interests, why would we...for our part...not agree?
Here we go with the demands again. 🙄
The US has been making demands too, not to mention Ukraine and all of Europe.
The terms are acceptable.
“And if it does not impinge on US interests, why would we...for our part...not agree?”
The agreement is between Ukraine and Russia.
“The agreement is between Ukraine and Russia.”
Except that Ukraine is our proxy.
That means the US has to take a position on the matter.
Under what conditions will we continue to supply Ukraine?
If Russia’s demands are too extreme it could make it difficult for Trump to abandon Ukraine.
First, we don’t know what the demands are.
Second, whatever the demands are, they are likely just an opening gambit.
Third, if part of the demands are recognition of the entirety of four provinces as Russian, which Russian only controls a portion of, that is obviously a non-starter.
What is posted above is not extreme in the least...as far as US interests go.
no, it is between Russia and those facilitating the war for Ukraine! Never would have happened without their help.
Yes, I know.
The first two referenced in the fourth paragraph seem reasonable. That third one might get a little tricky.
“and international recognition of President Vladimir Putin’s claim that Crimea and four provinces belong to Russia.”
Actually, that’s RUSSIA’s claim, as it was ratified by their parliament. But no surprise that, like the Zeepers, Reuters using Alinsky tactics to try to brainwash their readers.
Here we go with the demands again. 🙄
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It’s obvious that you’ve never played poker.
Except, that we hold ALL the cards, that of washing our hands of the whole thing.
“Except that Ukraine is our proxy.
LOL! I don’t think Trump has authorized Ukraine to be our proxy!
“The US has been making demands too, not to mention Ukraine and all of Europe.”
Romania got a bit UPPITY recently, so they just got a taste of European ‘Democracy’ - no doubt reminds of them of the Cold War days, although back then no one with a straight face in Eastern Europe claimed to be living in a ‘Democracy’.
“no,”
Yes.
“LOL! I don’t think Trump has authorized Ukraine to be our proxy!”
He is supply them with war material and intelligence.
They are our military proxy.
the Ukraine is nothing but a sock puppet of the US. The Ukraine gets zero say.
“First, we don’t know what the demands are.”
Anyone who has listened to the Russians for the past 9 months knows EXACTLY what the demands are. Those who only listen to CNN, not so much.
“Second, whatever the demands are, they are likely just an opening gambit.”
Possible, but I seriously doubt it.
“Third, if part of the demands are recognition of the entirety of four provinces as Russian, which Russian only controls a portion of, that is obviously a non-starter.”
There’s no ‘if’, those 4, complete, provinces ARE part of the demands. And yeah, it is likely a non-starter, so we’ll need to wait a few months until their liberation is complete and then we’ll be able to talk again.
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