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Trump may have talked America into recession before a trade tariff was even imposed
Sky News ^ | March 4, 2025 | Ed Conway

Posted on 03/04/2025 8:16:38 AM PST by lasereye

So perhaps the best thing we can do here is to give you some context on how big a deal the imposition of tariffs here would be.

The key thing to remember is that North America has been, in effect, a free trade zone for decades. Goods move back and forth across the borders so frequently that the number of crossings is almost incalculable.

Consider an example highlighted by the Wall Street Journal recently. It pointed out that a piston - a component of a car component, might cross the border, back and forth between Canada and the US and Mexico, six times before it actually reaches a customer.

Right now, it doesn't incur any fees on each of those crossings; tariffs change that picture and completely change the economics of making stuff.

Now, there are some deeper long-term discussions that could be had about the merits of making a car in one place versus another, but in the short run, the implication of these tariffs will be inflation. That's almost inescapable.

If it suddenly costs 25% more to bring a piston across from Canada into the US then imagine extrapolating that into every single component making that journey each day: it means the price of many goods goes up.

How many? That's hard to say, but consider that between them, Canada, Mexico and China account for around 40% of all US imports.

They account for almost 60% of energy imports. So while the objective of these tariffs might be (we still don't really have a clear picture since various different administration figures give various different explanations) to rebuild American manufacturing, it takes years to get factories built. In the intervening period, tariffs spell higher costs for American consumers.

And the upshot of those higher costs is lower economic activity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conwaytheclown; edconway; edtheclown; tariffs; trump
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Stock market started plummeting yesterday after the new tariffs were announced. Continuing to plummet today.

As he points out, any new factories that might be built in the US will take years before they're up and running.

1 posted on 03/04/2025 8:16:38 AM PST by lasereye
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To: lasereye

Ed “The Clown” Conway weighs in.


2 posted on 03/04/2025 8:18:14 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: lasereye

I tend to agree, stop worrying so much about Ukraine and worry like crazy about the people in Nowhere America as I myself are not seeing one oidia things are getting better. Granted he has only been in office a month but he has driven down my 401k, Gold is out of sight and fuel and food has not changed...


3 posted on 03/04/2025 8:23:49 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: lasereye

Or he may not have. Let’s see, shall we? Yes. Let’s shall.


4 posted on 03/04/2025 8:24:10 AM PST by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: lasereye

Recessions are periodic, normal and necessary. We’re due, and it will be a good thing. Trump thinks ahead years, while most react hourly.


5 posted on 03/04/2025 8:25:35 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck )
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To: kiryandil

MSM narrative is out now. Recession is here and it’s because of the Tariffs. Repeat.


6 posted on 03/04/2025 8:27:04 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: lasereye

“a piston - a component of a car component, might cross the border, back and forth between Canada and the US and Mexico, six times before it actually reaches a customer.”

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve read today. Who would tolerate such gross economic inefficiency?


7 posted on 03/04/2025 8:27:24 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole)
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To: SaxxonWoods
yep. we still have some forms of animal spirits in the financial markets that need to be wrung out in order to drive down inflationary forces (consumer spending).

seems like trump and Bessent want this to occur sooner rather than later.
8 posted on 03/04/2025 8:29:10 AM PST by millenial4freedom (Government was supposed to preserve freedom, not serve as a jobs program for delinquents and misfits)
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To: lasereye

You can suck your way into Marxism. Now we have to shoot our way out. Of course it isn’t going to be pleasant. The RAT turds won’t allow it. Americans, all Americans are going to be punished by the RATS for we Americans RE-ELECTING PRESIDENT TRUMP!


9 posted on 03/04/2025 8:31:19 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Men who want to compete in women sports are no different than a wife beater in lipstick.)
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To: lasereye

Yes, we should just keep getting screwed indefinitely.


10 posted on 03/04/2025 8:39:21 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: gibsonguy

The recession started in 2021 when Biden was elected and all his tomfoolery.


11 posted on 03/04/2025 8:40:15 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: lasereye

It will have the effect that more things will say Made in USA.


12 posted on 03/04/2025 8:41:01 AM PST by woodpusher
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To: lasereye

The stock market is overvalued and a correction is needed.

Bloated valuations and “mirage economics” won’t do anybody any good.


13 posted on 03/04/2025 8:41:04 AM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: lasereye

Economy was in recession before Trump took office

If this nonsense were true why didn’t we get a recession in his 1st term?


14 posted on 03/04/2025 8:42:22 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: DownInFlames

That’s right.


15 posted on 03/04/2025 8:43:10 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: MNJohnnie

Good point.


16 posted on 03/04/2025 8:43:26 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: lasereye

More like Biden, the demoncrats and their overspending drove us into recession and their minions in the press actively covered it up.


17 posted on 03/04/2025 8:47:15 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: unclebankster

17% of GDP is deficit spending. When you remove that spending that puts the U.S. into recession. Math is hard.


18 posted on 03/04/2025 8:50:51 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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Economy was in recession before Trump took office

We have been in a silent recession since about August 2023 according to my books in my business. That's when the funny money dried up, credit cards were maxing out and no growth other than on paper.

19 posted on 03/04/2025 8:51:30 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: lasereye

How dare America stand up for itself.


20 posted on 03/04/2025 8:52:11 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING 0F AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE oNO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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