Posted on 03/01/2025 10:07:57 AM PST by SoConPubbie
President Donald Trump said Friday he wants an “immediate” ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine and warned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to make peace or lose American support.
Trump says he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin, who launched the invasion of Ukraine three years ago, is ready for a peace deal.
The statement comes after Trump and Vice President JD Vance berated Zelenskyy for being “disrespectful” in an extraordinary Oval Office meeting, then abruptly called off the signing of a minerals deal with the U.S.
Amid reports Trump is considering holding up further aid from U.S. to Ukraine, the president was quoted as saying a defiant Ukraine will lose without America's support.
Zelenskyy, for his part, says Ukraine won’t enter peace talks with Russia until it has security guarantees against another offensive.
Responding to Trump’s claim that Zelenskyy isn’t interested in peace, the Ukrainian leader told Fox News host Bret Baier that nobody wants to finish the war more than Ukrainians. But even if he gave an order to stop fighting, Zelenskyy said, “nobody will just stop” because everyone is afraid “Putin will come back tomorrow.”
“We want just and lasting peace,” Zelenskyy said.
He said the Oval Office spat with Trump was “not good for both sides” but he believes his relationship with Trump can be salvaged.
Later in the day, Trump repeated his earlier comments that Ukraine has a weak hand, saying “you can’t embolden somebody that doesn’t have the cards.” Without U.S. support, he said, Ukraine will lose.
“You saw what I saw today,” Trump said. “This is a man that wants to get us signed up and keep fighting. We’re not doing that.”
European leaders pledged late Friday to stand by Ukraine in the wake of the contentious Oval Office meeting.
Newsmax contributed to this report.
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Well if you say Russia can’t be trusted how can you demand lasting peace outside of Trump’s plan?
Everything Trump was doing was an attempt to stop the dying. Everything Z was doing was to ask for our help to enable him to continue with the killing.
Trump is no fool. It’s amazing that the left still doesn’t get that.
So much for being the "peace" President.
Well, yeah, there is that...
Trump plays the statesman.
Good move.
Most Americans want the killing to stop and our support of the killing to stop.
The details are the details and matter little to the America First movement.
Kinda misleading headline. Trump said he’d like to see an immediate ceasefire to stop the killing, but he did not formally call for an immediate ceasefire. And he knows as well as we do that ain’t gonna happen.
Everything Trump was doing was an attempt to stop the dying. Everything Z was doing was to ask for our help to enable him to continue with the killing.
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Wars end when the last bastard willing to die for his county is killed - peace is just the interlude to rearm.
Ukraine could just agree not to attack retreating Russian troops provided that there are no concurrent Russian offensives. When all Russian troops are out of Ukraine, including Crimea, Ukraine will leave Kursk. Since Russia invaded Ukraine, that is a reasonable offer. Anything that rewards Russian aggression is a non-starter.
security guarantees are boots on the ground
gfy z
But what’s to stop retaliation from the civilian population once the Russians leave? You’re going to need some kind of neutral peacekeeping force in that region to keep them from killing each other. Kind of like Northern Ireland during The Troubles.
You skipped B.
No doubt option B is: “Pierrem15 is a sniveling little bitch”
Why would Vlad agree to a cease fire when he is gobbling up so much territory?
Give time for the Ukies to reinforce, reorganize?
Time is not on Z’s side, Vlad is deciding the outcome on the lines of contact.
Would somebody please define “security guarantees” for me like I’m five?
Seems pretty vague.
“ Ukraine Lost More Villages On The Battlefield During The Zelensky-Trump Showdown In The Oval Office…… The Ukrainians have been steadily losing ground for months in Donetsk, but have continued efforts to strike Russian oil and gas facilities inside Russian territory, which hasn’t made any level of a strategic difference in the war.….”
I want to be a member of nato…that’s what it means. Russia isn’t having that.
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