Posted on 02/19/2025 9:28:13 PM PST by McGruff
Donald Trump says he believes Russia "have the cards" in any peace talks to end the war in Ukraine because they have "taken a lot of territory".
The US president told the BBC he trusted that Moscow wants to see an end to the war, which Russia started when it waged a full-scale invasion almost three years ago.
Trump was flying back to Washington DC after speaking at a Saudi-backed investment meeting in Florida, where he called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a "dictator" for the second time in a day.
Trump has been angered after Zelensky, reacting to US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia from which Kyiv was excluded, said the US president was "living in a disinformation space" governed by Moscow.
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And are stepping up the pace.
That was a heck of a flight. He also said “we’re going to Ft. Knox to see if the gold is there”.
The main reason they are holding the cards, is that they are not spoiling for a deal. The US, London and the Euros are. We are all tapped out, our weapons stocks are low and production is slow. The Uke army is out of men.
We desperately need a breather. That is why they are holding the cards.
And if it’s one thing Trump understands, it’s knowing the dynamics of a deal.
Its the truth. Tired of bodies piling up, billions of dollars missing, and own pipelines being blown over a lie that Hillary lost in 2016 and cover up for a democrap money laundering scheme.
Russia “have the cards”
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Well, well, well, ….exactly what I have been saying for three years, Vlad holds all the cards…..so, so easy to see IF you didn’t by into the Western MSM fake Ukie war narrative…..the good thing?
The Russian Derangement Syndrome has a cure ( invented by Democrats ) -President Trump.
Trump is angered b/c Zelensky——— reacting to US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia from which Kyiv was excluded-—— said the president was “living in a disinformation space” governed by Moscow.
Does Zelensky ever ponder on the anger US taxpayers hold for him?
Pretty much.
The pundits have no idea when it comes to this level of negotiations. This is a three-way deal where we get ours and the DS is exposed. You have to understand the end status of all the players and work backwards to understand the steps.
Two of the most corrupt nations at war. The corrupt worlds’ piggy banks for money laundering. No one in the west wants to stop the war or their crimes will be exposed (bribes and kickbacks from Ukraine). The ‘East’ laundering their money through Russia. The one man who earned his own money legitimately is the one who can lead the negotiations. That’s why they hate Trump and the world is nearly united in making sure this war continues to the last young soldier on both sides.
Tulsi Gabbard is one by one erasing the crap intelligence items that have been provided.
It cannot be coincidence that Trump’s perspective hardened anti-Zelinsky pretty much exactly when she took over. Now he has accurate data on casualties. Now he has accurate data on lines of conflict. Now he has accurate data on whose weapons are superior.
With that information he has made his choice to get out while they’re getting is good. He’s also being very clear to Zelensky. He has told him to make a deal before it’s too late.
I don’t particularly blame Zelensky for what’s happening. He has spent years being told that he will always have support. Should he have known better? Probably not. That’s the media’s fault. They never provided him an alternate view to counter a total presumption that he would be back stopped forever.
He suspected this would be Trump’s position and spent the summer last year backstabbing Trump in the attempt to get him to lose.
He has no say in the matter. It’s all going to be decided by the debt ceiling fight. Very odd but that’s the way it’s going to play. Because there’s no other legislation that would give him money that could pass.
To the victor goes the spoils—ancient rule of war—But Trump has a few cards too—the sanctions. When the people learn of the rank corruption in Ukraine—the anger will be red hot. Marks hate it when the con is reveled to them. Yes, Mr. Zelensky has been ruling as a dictator for three years. Closing churches, arresting people, etc... Trump has to balance the Russians and what they want (Victory Parade in Moscow and rebuilding “new Russia”) with Europe (Germany/Poland mostly) who wants cheap Russian Gas and to rid themselves of Ukrainians refugees. With USA—to end the cash flow and Neo-Con cold warriors—and lastly the Ukraine that want peace and freedom from future Russian attacks. If Trump can do this—he deserves the Peace Prize.
NATO/Zelensky have been lying, claiming that they have the cards and Z would only accept a return of Ukie lands. This of course is not possible, and that’s what NATO wants - they never wanted peace. They want regime change in Moscow, to install their puppet there, and are willing to start WWIII to get it.
So it was necessary for Trump to state reality. The MSM isn’t handling it well.
This whole thread certainly is not very Zeeper friendly. Those poor devils, rooting for misery, violence and corruption. Maybe the Deep State can swing another war for them to be cheerleaders for, before the Deep State is finally crushed out of existence.
Of course they do. I’ve heard some delusional people on the Beeb claiming President Trump “gave away leverage” by saying Russia would keep the territory it controls (ie the Donbas and Crimea) and that Ukraine would not be in NATO.
No. That’s acknowledging REALITY. The Russians are winning - not losing. They’ve been winning from the start. Anybody with even half a brain should have realized that with 100 million more people and a larger armaments capacity than the entire collective West, they held massive advantages. That has translated to the Ukes taking more casualties on the battlefield. There is a reason the Ukrainians keep retreating and losing territory - and it ain’t cause they’re winning.
Without admitting the reality, the Russians had no reason to negotiate at all. They could just grind Ukraine down to a nub and take Kharkov and the entire Black Sea coast in addition to what they’ve already got. Ending this war now at least preserves that territory in addition to stopping the slaughter of an entire generation of men in Ukraine.
The Yurps would do well to keep those White Christian Ukrainian refugees and get rid of the feral Muslims and various other 3rd worlders they’ve let in. The Ukrainians can be integrated and can at least help somewhat offset their terrible demographics. The others not so much.
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