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German Chancellor Scholz Appears To Rebuke JD Vance In Speech, Slams ‘Outsiders Intervening In Our Democracy’
Forbes ^ | Feb 15, 2025 | Conor Murray

Posted on 02/15/2025 11:42:17 AM PST by MinorityRepublican

One day after Vice President JD Vance delivered a scathing speech to European leaders in Munich, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz took the same stage to offer an apparent rebuke to Vance’s remarks, defending Germany’s democracy and its regulations on hate speech.

Scholz spoke at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, slamming “outsiders intervening in our democracy, in our elections, in the democratic formation of opinion in favour of this party,” especially from “friends and allies.”

Scholz said Germany’s “commitment to ‘never again’”—a promise to not return to fascism and the Holocaust—“cannot be reconciled with support” for Alternative for Germany (AfD), the country’s far-right party that is rising in support and has been propped up by billionaire Elon Musk.

In an apparent response to Vance’s claim that European leaders suppress free speech, Scholz said, “Free speech in Europe means that you are not attacking others in ways that are against legislation and laws we have in our country”—referring to German hate speech laws.

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TOPICS: Germany
KEYWORDS: europe; freedomofspeech; lol; ourdemocracy; vance; waronfreespeech
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1 posted on 02/15/2025 11:42:17 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m getting really tired of this “our Democracy” talk.

Look pal, you can’t have your “Democracy” without free speech.

Sounds more to me like you’re talking about communism.


2 posted on 02/15/2025 11:43:37 AM PST by Skywise
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To: MinorityRepublican

Vance’s whole point is that they’re hardly a democracies when they’re canceling elections in Romania (or making them having no consequence in France’s case)


3 posted on 02/15/2025 11:44:33 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Germany is such a “democracy,” why can’t they stand a little criticism? Open debate is one of the features of “democracy”, and the German chancellor’s reaction tells us all we need to know about his trajectory.


4 posted on 02/15/2025 11:44:51 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: aynrandfreak

Touche.


5 posted on 02/15/2025 11:45:10 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Skywise

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Our%20Democracy

System in which you do and vote exactly as instructed by left-liberal Democratic media and political establishment.


6 posted on 02/15/2025 11:45:21 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

As long as we have military bases in Germany we are not outsiders.


7 posted on 02/15/2025 11:46:24 AM PST by LukeL
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Ami… Ami….. Ami..”


8 posted on 02/15/2025 11:46:28 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Scholz is hurt, and lashing out. If you do not agree with the chancellor and his red-green coalition which is teetering, you are against and "referring to German hate speech laws."

The restriction of speech without a clear and legally proscribed definition of whatever it is that "hate speech" is rates a laugh and a jeer.

But it's fine, because Olaf won't be chancellor much longer.....

9 posted on 02/15/2025 11:46:29 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Those Germans, they sure do love their authoritarianism.


10 posted on 02/15/2025 11:47:27 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“’Free speech in Europe means that you are not attacking others in ways that are against legislation and laws we have in our country’—referring to German hate speech laws.”

Sooo... NOT free speech.


11 posted on 02/15/2025 11:47:40 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: MinorityRepublican

First they came for the Neo-Nazis.......


12 posted on 02/15/2025 11:48:21 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A centrally planned economy top-heavy with failed progressive policies, with crippling taxes for ‘green’ reasons and foreigners replacing native Germans is hardly a ‘democracy’.


13 posted on 02/15/2025 11:48:33 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: MRadtke
Those Germans, they sure do love their authoritarianism.

It's a German thing.

14 posted on 02/15/2025 11:48:47 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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JD Vance’s speech was also geared toward the people of Europe, not just the government and NATO leaders. I am sure he deliberately stirred up the honest nests so it triggered discussions among European themselves.

When things cool off and settle a bit, hopefully they will start to see the merits of Vance’s speech. In any case, that speech will be remembered as one of the most important speeches in 21st century.


15 posted on 02/15/2025 11:50:11 AM PST by paudio (NEW MATH: 45=47)
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To: Skywise
Look pal, you can’t have your “Democracy” without free speech.

They can have what they want. But they can’t expect us to pick up the expense for defending it.

16 posted on 02/15/2025 11:52:28 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: MinorityRepublican

You mean like we did in the early ‘40’s, Sgt. Scholz?


17 posted on 02/15/2025 11:52:40 AM PST by daler
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To: Skywise

What they mean by OUR Democracy are the institutions created since 1945 to make sure that voting can’t change anything.


18 posted on 02/15/2025 11:54:22 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yo Olaf, you blathering putz!

We had to “intervene in your democracy “ 2x in the last century, and have been propping up your bucolic little dorf ever since.

You might try NOT crapping in the hand that protects your worthless azz!


19 posted on 02/15/2025 11:54:44 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and don't wish to smile.)
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To: LukeL

Dear VP, Tell the Germans to watch us close every single base in Europe. According to my program, here is the amount of money we spend in the German Nation. For example, in 2020, the U.S. Department of Defense estimated it spent around $8 billion on its military presence in Germany. This figure includes the costs associated with maintaining bases, housing, and other facilities and the salaries and benefits of military personnel and their families.


20 posted on 02/15/2025 11:55:07 AM PST by electricjack (Hello I am from the govt an an I here to help you Ugh worst thing I ever heard in my 80+ years..)
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