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Trump promises Kyiv involvement in peace talks with Russia
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | February 13th. 2025 | Tom Balmforth and Bart H. Meijer

Posted on 02/13/2025 1:46:36 PM PST by Mariner

KYIV/BRUSSELS (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that Ukraine would be involved in peace talks with Russia, after Kyiv and its European allies warned against a "dirty deal" between Washington and Moscow following Trump's call with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said Ukraine would have a seat at the table during any peace negotiations with Russia over ending the war.

"They're part of it. We would have Ukraine, and we have Russia, and we'll have other people involved, a lot of people,” Trump said.

Asked whether he trusts Putin, he said: "I believe that he would like to see something happen. I trust him on this subject."

The U.S. president also said Russia should be readmitted to the Group of Seven nations.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foreigners4bidenbux; neverwasourwar; notourwar; ukrainianbusboy; ukrainianwaiter; wonteverbeourwar
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Ukraine will have a seat.

So will "a lot of people"...when a peace deal is discussed.

1 posted on 02/13/2025 1:46:36 PM PST by Mariner
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Russia delegation will be attending the Munich Security Conference tomorrow. Last minute invitation…


2 posted on 02/13/2025 1:48:56 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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So Trump agrees with Ukraine: Ukraine says it will not accept US-Russia peace deal reached without Kyiv
3 posted on 02/13/2025 1:49:10 PM PST by tlozo
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So trump says Ukraine as opposed to dictator Zelenskyyyyy. Trump recognizes Z the dictator who suspended elections and not worthy of mentioning


4 posted on 02/13/2025 1:52:47 PM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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bttt


5 posted on 02/13/2025 1:55:14 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: C210N

Why you lie? The Constitution of Ukraine says during marshal law there will be no elections. Zelensky did not decide.

Rusia is bombing civilians every night and executing POWs and why don’t you call on Putin to stop?


6 posted on 02/13/2025 2:21:01 PM PST by POGO163
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So Trump agrees with Ukraine: Ukraine says it will not accept US-Russia peace deal reached without Kyiv

The Tiny Dancer will be brought in to sign on the dotted line. There will be a few minutes of pomp and then he will be escorted to a waiting helicopter that he hopes will make it to the nearest airport so he can flee with his life. Its that or he is left to the mercy of the NAZI's.

7 posted on 02/13/2025 2:25:01 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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"They're part of it. We would have Germany, and we have Russia, and we'll have other people involved, a lot of people,” President Roosevelt said.

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8 posted on 02/13/2025 2:48:13 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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I suspect his ‘exit’ strategy will be part of the deal.


9 posted on 02/13/2025 3:07:01 PM PST by Qiviut (Come! Live in the light! Shine with the joy and the love of the Lord!)
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Zelensky will be seated on the toilet seat where he belongs. I wonder if he will bring along his nose candy stash?


10 posted on 02/13/2025 3:11:27 PM PST by dforest
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Nothing is going to happen until Gabbard gets people fired and zero agenda intel briefings are available to Trump


11 posted on 02/13/2025 3:13:16 PM PST by Owen
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Nothing is going to happen until Gabbard gets people fired and zero agenda intel briefings are available to Trump

Gabbard is going to have to fire everybody.

12 posted on 02/13/2025 3:14:51 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Why you lie? The Constitution of Ukraine says during marshal law there will be no elections.

Why you not read Ukraine's Constitution?

According to Ukraine's constitution, martial law suspends elections for the Verkhovna Rada, or Ukraine's legislature, but does not suspend elections for its president (Article 83).

The legislature passed a constitutional amendment in 2023 allowing cancellation of presidential elections during martial law, but this process was unconstitutional as Ukraine's constitution prohibits amendments to the constitution during martial law (Article 157).

Article 83
"In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency."

Article 157
"The Constitution of Ukraine shall not be amended in conditions of martial law or a state of emergency."

CONSTITUTION OF UKRAINE

13 posted on 02/13/2025 3:39:24 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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Some PRO Z Putin admires on this thread have no clue about how things are working. Zelensky just CAN’t organized elections during a war. The Ukrainian Constitution must indeed first be re-written in that case.

C210N wants nations to violate their own constitutions. That is anarchist ideology.
It’s just hysteria.

Putin is a KGB rag doll dangling from some KGB strings. They lost their 10.000’s tank today in their botched 3 year old war! A great day for Ukraine’s military.


14 posted on 02/13/2025 4:18:09 PM PST by USA-FRANCE (The Iran-Russia-North Korea-China Alliance is at war against Israel and Ukraine. Let's not forget.)
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In a few weeks we will have accurate casualty numbers. Give Gabbard time to fire some people.

Then the briefings will be reality.


15 posted on 02/13/2025 4:21:00 PM PST by Owen
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; POGO163; tlozo; BroJoeK; PIF; marcusmaximus

Nice try Right Wing Madman!
I like that.

But here is the thing:

Under martial law, which has been in place since Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022, elections cannot legally be conducted.

Constitutional Basis:
Martial Law Restrictions (Article 64 & 83)

Article 64 allows certain constitutional rights to be restricted under martial law.
Article 83 states that if martial law or a state of emergency is in place, parliamentary elections (Verkhovna Rada) cannot be held.
Presidential Elections (Article 108 & 112)

The Constitution does not directly mention elections under martial law, but Ukrainian law prohibits holding them in wartime.
The current martial law prevents the organization of a full, free, and fair election process (e.g., campaigning, voting logistics, international monitoring).
Practical and Security Challenges:
Even if Ukraine amended its laws to allow elections under martial law, conducting them would be highly challenging:

Millions of Ukrainians are displaced both internally and abroad.
Many regions, particularly in the east and south, are active war zones.
Soldiers and civilians under occupation would struggle to vote.


16 posted on 02/13/2025 4:28:24 PM PST by USA-FRANCE (The Iran-Russia-North Korea-China Alliance is at war against Israel and Ukraine. Let's not forget.)
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The Constitution does not directly mention elections under martial law, but Ukrainian law prohibits holding them in wartime.

You didn't show me the article that prohibits ALL elections under martial law, only Article 83, which suspends elections for Ukraine's legislature.

That was my point: Article 83 suspends elections for the Verkhovna Rada during martial law, but not presidential elections.

And Ukraine's legislature passed the unconstitutional law in 2023 so Zelensky wouldn't have to face voters again and he could serve an unlimited term.

17 posted on 02/13/2025 4:46:28 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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Elections during martial law are expressly prohibited by Part 1, Article 19 of the Law of Ukraine “On the Legal Regime of Martial Law.” The prohibition by law applies to all types of elections: elections of the President of Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and local self-government bodies.


18 posted on 02/13/2025 5:03:53 PM PST by USA-FRANCE (The Iran-Russia-North Korea-China Alliance is at war against Israel and Ukraine. Let's not forget.)
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>> "Zelensky will be seated on the toilet seat where he belongs. I wonder if he will bring along his nose candy stash?" <<

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19 posted on 02/13/2025 5:12:26 PM PST by ANKE69 (✌️🇺🇲 Let's MAGA)
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Look at this.

https://x.com/i/status/1890140363769409744


20 posted on 02/13/2025 5:22:25 PM PST by dforest
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