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Memo to Elon and Vivek: What Are The Incentives That Drive Inefficient Government?
PJ Media ^ | 12/12/2024 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 12/12/2024 8:50:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It’s tempting, especially for a libertarian-verging-on-anarchist like me, to just assume government functionaries are inherently bad people who like doing bad things to good people.

It’s not really true — in general, people in government are doing what they think is good. So why does it seem like it’s true? Why does it so often seem that what government does is at best useless, often counterproductive, and sometimes actively harmful?

Elon Musk posted something on X a few days ago that struck me: incentives drive outcomes.

The “save the homeless” NGOs are often paid according to how many homeless people are on the streets, thus creating a strong financial incentive for them to maximize the number of homeless people and never actually solve the problem!

Incentives explain outcomes. https://t.co/ujxryf8z6d— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 10, 2024

In psychology, this is called “operant conditioning.” Put simply, it’s that a behavior that gets rewarded, gets repeated.

It’s useful, though, to analyze an existing situation going the other direction: ask what the incentives are that drive a particular behavior.

This is actually a callback to my previous memo to Musk and Ramaswamy. The short version is that government suffers from having vague, unstated, or even contradictory objectives, and no measures of success that can be verified. 

As commenters pointed out, often objectives and measures thoughtlessly defined can be counter-productive. One example was customer service reps in a call center. If the number of calls handled is the measure of a CSR's production, they will optimize to shunt difficult calls aside to even hang up on them. This results in good calls-per-hour, but bad customer satisfaction.

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KEYWORDS: doge; government; inefficiency
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1 posted on 12/12/2024 8:50:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: Save the Homeless

So, we spend money on this program, Yet, year after year, there were more homeless to be “saved,” which meant a bigger budget, more staff, and of course higher compensation for the CEO. The one thing that wasn’t happening was a reduction in the number of homeless people in homes and out of the program.

But then, that wasn’t where the rewards lie.


2 posted on 12/12/2024 8:51:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I stead of “Save the Homeless,” it should be “Eliminate the Homeless.”


4 posted on 12/12/2024 8:59:04 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They get paychecks whether or not they work.


5 posted on 12/12/2024 9:11:53 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: SeekAndFind

$$$$$


6 posted on 12/12/2024 9:18:16 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: SeekAndFind

A government apparatchik gets into a comfy government service level. He wants his children and grandchildren to enjoy the perks of being a deputy assistant to the assistant chief pot stirrer too.

In two generations, the apparatchiks create a government that exists to exist. And they will ruin you if you try to cut them out.


7 posted on 12/12/2024 9:20:04 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
What Are The Incentives That Drive Inefficient Government?

Lifetime employment. Full retirement. Virtually no possibility of getting fired of laid off.

8 posted on 12/12/2024 9:29:27 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: SeekAndFind

WHEN I WAS A KID:

We were told to NEVER feed the feral cats.

ALL you got was MORE FERAL CATS.


9 posted on 12/12/2024 9:49:52 PM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is against the law to feed bears in state and national parks, why do you suppose that is? Because they become dependent! The same as our homeless! No incentive to feed themselves!


10 posted on 12/12/2024 10:45:40 PM PST by Bigbrown
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To: SeekAndFind

1. Greed
2. Dishonesty


11 posted on 12/12/2024 11:26:31 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yes...along with power and self preservation.


12 posted on 12/13/2024 2:39:44 AM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

NGOs should be outlawed.


13 posted on 12/13/2024 4:51:07 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Greed. People are making money hand over fist.


14 posted on 12/13/2024 5:04:16 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind

corruption across the board


15 posted on 12/13/2024 5:11:30 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: SeekAndFind

A government entity exists to ensure it gets more money they next year. It has no incentive to fix a problem for if it did then the entity would no longer be needed and would cease to exist.


16 posted on 12/13/2024 5:11:38 AM PST by Mr. Mohasky (Common sense in a world lacking any, will be perceived & construed as an extreme point of view.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is kinda like building ‘low income housing’ so we have more low income people in our community.

Instead of getting healthy low income people off their backsides and get them to go to work each day so they can afford to rent or buy regular housing.


17 posted on 12/13/2024 5:55:38 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: SeekAndFind
no measures of success that can be verified.

That is by design. The most feared word in government is accountability.

18 posted on 12/13/2024 6:36:27 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: maddog55
NGOs should be outlawed.

They can still exist but must only be privately funded such as the NRA. They should receive no taxpayer funding because it is fundamentally unconstitutional.

The constitution grants the federal government the ability to raise taxes to pay for inherently governmental functions.

Inherently governmental functions can't be contracted out they must be performed by government employees. NGOs do not perform inherently governmental functions and thus the government has no authority expend tax dollars on them.

19 posted on 12/13/2024 6:49:57 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: usurper

“””Inherently governmental functions can’t be contracted out they must be performed by government employees. NGOs do not perform inherently governmental functions and thus the government has no authority expend tax dollars on them.”””


My thoughts are that the government hires NGO’s to perform stuff that the government is prohibited from doing.


20 posted on 12/13/2024 6:54:55 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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