Posted on 12/04/2024 2:09:48 PM PST by McGruff
Russia's top general called America's top general last week in a previously undisclosed conversation to warn the United States that Russia was going to carry out test launches of hypersonic missiles in the eastern Mediterranean Sea and that U.S. Navy ships should steer clear of the target area for safety reasons, according to a U.S. official.
Gen. Valery Gerasimov initiated last Wednesday's call with Gen. CQ Brown, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to provide him with that warning and to also discuss Ukraine and how to avoid miscalculation between the U.S. and Russia about that ongoing conflict.
The Russian hypersonic missile test took place in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, an area where the U.S. Navy has three amphibious ships with 2,200 Marines aboard as well as destroyers providing missile defense for Israel.
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America has more crazy angry trannies than Russia!
Russia has clearly been focused on producing highly effective weapons while we have been preoccupied with endless military adventures, DEI and wasteful weapons programs.
There needs to be accountability for this neglect.
America could start launching hypersonic trannies at the Russians....
One RuPaul could set off the ICBMs though.......
In their conversation, Brown and Gerasimov also discussed how to avoid a miscalculation and escalation between the two countries when it comes to Ukraine, a U.S. official said.
Specifically, they discussed the U.S. allowing Ukraine to use ATACMS long range missiles against targets inside Russia, as well as Russia’s subsequent test of an Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) on a target inside Ukraine. Russia said the IRBM strike was in retaliation for Ukraine being allowed to use the ATACMS missiles inside of Russia.
“Russian general warned US about hypersonic missile test in Mediterranean: Exclusive”
Why don’t we just shoot them down? Just kidding!!!!!
“Russia has clearly been focused on producing highly effective weapons while we have been preoccupied with endless military adventures, DEI and wasteful weapons programs.”
Weapons development is FAR CHEAPER than nation-building. We’re decades behind, and screwed now.
“There needs to be accountability for this neglect.”
It was conservatives DROPPING THE BALL and not fighting the Hippie Generation when they could, which was BEFORE they got power.
Now the chickens have come home to roost.
“We’re decades behind, and screwed now.”
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Agree, our priorities are totally screwed up. Our readiness posture has suffered. Trump and his new SecDef are going to have to play some serious catch up.
bkmk
Highly effective weapons?
There’s no BDA for these things.
Russia’s hypersonic weapons are simply IRBM’s shot off from aircraft - basically sideways, with, apparently, no difference in their guidance systems. As IRBM’s they have very limited accuracy, because they don’t need that much accuracy, they were designed to carry nukes. The only thing they are effective at is carrying an implied nuclear threat.
The implied threat to US ships at sea from these things is absurd.
The actual damage-causing weapon system the Russians are using are the Kh-101 cruise missile series and similar. And this is only because of the use of large numbers in a given attack to swamp SAM systems, and that can occur only because Ukraine has a limited number of SAMs. There is no technological advantage here.
A true hypersonic missile is (theoretically) dangerous because it can maneuver in flight, thus throwing off ballistic intercept calculations by ABM systems - which are of course designed to counter ballistic missiles.
and a lot of really good intel was gathered by US ELINT folks.
A true hypersonic missile
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More exactly referred to as a hypersonic glide vehicle which no one has because the material sciences are lagging.
The US is behind in the rate of production of what seem to be highly effective weapon systems. Patriot interceptors, MIM-104 series, are problematic simply because the US doesn’t make enough of them.
The critical post-Cold War failure was to reduce manufacturing capacity. Tech is fine. There is lots of brilliant stuff in the pipeline that is slow to come online - because of lack of manufacturing capacity.
Also shows up in the new NRO (National Reconnaissance Office) recon satellites, designed to work like Starlink, as a “constellation”. SpaceX can launch these immediately, when they show up, its just that they are being produced at a low rate.
BTW, even in FR there are screwballs complaining about the “Military Industrial Complex”. It is utterly moronic to hate the MIC and then complain about reduced manufacturing capacity. It is absolutely brain-rotted to hate Raytheon and then complain about a lack of missiles - from Raytheon. I cannot imagine how such people tie their shoes.
Pretty much yes.
“The only thing they are effective at is carrying an implied nuclear threat.”
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False. Oreshnik is an intermediate-range ballistic missile; a kinetic weapons system comparable to a low-to-medium yield nuclear weapon that can also be fitted into intercontinental non-nuclear missiles.
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Agree, our priorities are totally screwed up. Our readiness posture has suffered. Trump
and his new SecDef are going to have to play some serious catch up.
It certainly doesn't help matters when we are dead a$$ broke and STILL sending borrowed money to every craphole on the planet.
If the testimony I saw him give in a Congressional hearing is any indication he probably did not know what “hypersonic” meant. That guy is a grade A 100% equal opportunity affirmative action DIE hire. (He could not define the made up terms in his own LBGQ whatever policy. Looked like a total idiot.)
A nuclear-equivalent kinetic weapon would have to be very heavy and very fast. Not something achievable with an IRBM class carrier vehicle.
Analysis of “rods from God” theoretical orbital kinetic weapon systems yield for instance cases of a mass of 9 tons at Mach 10 being equivalent to 11.5 tons of TNT, nowhere near nuclear weapon range. And no IRBM is going to be hitting the ground anywhere near Mach 10, nor with a 9 ton warhead.
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