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Lawmakers backing separate cyber force see opening with Trump’s return
Breaking Defense ^ | November 22, 2024 at 8:20 AM | Carley Welch

Posted on 11/25/2024 8:47:22 AM PST by Fish Speaker

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has long pushed back against the establishment of a new military service dedicated to cyberspace, but with President-elect Donald Trump on his way back to the White House, a separate cyber force has a real shot at becoming a reality, according to experts and to lawmakers who support the move.

“This change in administration potentially could give more impetus to the creation of a separate cyber service,” Quentin Hodgson, formerly the Pentagon’s director of Cyber Plans, told Breaking Defense. “[Trump] did that with the Space Force. It was something that the Department of Defense didn’t want, but he decided he wanted it, and it’s possible that that could also happen with cyberspace.”

Hodgson was hardly alone in connecting Trump’s then-controversial move to stand up the Space Force in 2019 to visions of what his second term could bring to the cyber realm. Among those who made the comparison to Breaking Defense was Rep. Pat Fallon, a Texas Republican and vocal supporter of the cyber force idea.

“As the past half century has shown us, there will be naysayers and contrarians within the Pentagon who will do everything to slow-roll major changes. However, only six years ago, we had the same issue in the space domain,” Fallon said in an email. “We need concrete progress and limited stagnation in cyber, something I know the Trump Administration will emphasize throughout the next four years.”

Fallon and Rep. Morgan Luttrell, another Texas Republican, authored an amendment in the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act that called for an independent third-party study to help lawmakers and DoD leaders determine if a separate cyber force is necessary. The study is being conducted by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cybersecurity; donaldtrump; elonmusk; justno; morganluttrell; patfallon; recipefordisaster; technofascism; trump
I don't know about this. Wouldn't this have to go through DOGE first?
1 posted on 11/25/2024 8:47:22 AM PST by Fish Speaker
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To: Fish Speaker

DoD considerations aside, I want the CIA to go after hacker sites around the world. Chinese, Russian,... wherever.


2 posted on 11/25/2024 8:55:36 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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My question would be, will we get a whole bunch of people trying to join Cyber Force, who know nothing about cyber security?


3 posted on 11/25/2024 8:57:16 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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I think we have this capability already, it’s called the NSA.

Repurpose the NSA back to a national defense mission that targets only foreign entities. I suspect they are already deeply involved in cyberspace operations.

DoD had separate agencies in the communications security arena that could have easily evolved into cyberspace activities. However they were shut down with missions ineffectively lumped into MI. The Army’s version was the USASA.


4 posted on 11/25/2024 9:10:27 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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“The Pentagon has long pushed back against the establishment of a new military service dedicated to cyberspace,”

That will be the home of Stasi style domestic spying and censorship.


5 posted on 11/25/2024 9:15:47 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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No. Not happening.


6 posted on 11/25/2024 9:26:59 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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“That will be the home of Stasi style domestic spying and censorship.”

NSA, CIA, BATF, Fusion Centers? We already have that.


7 posted on 11/25/2024 10:05:20 AM PST by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Fish Speaker

I have met very few officers (esp Generals) who even remotely understand cyber security.


8 posted on 11/25/2024 10:05:37 AM PST by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Fish Speaker

DOGE is basically two guys with no real authority coming up with a list of suggestions.

They have zero say in any National Security issues which are way beyond their current level of understanding. What I mean by that while Musk May still have a security clearance (which is kind of strange since he uses recreational drugs), he does not have “need to know” on national security regarding anything other than government projects involving Space X. For instance, while he may have access to classified information regarding the physical attributes of a top secret satellite that a Space X rocket might lift into orbit, he would not be allowed to have access to information regarding how that satellite works, collects or transmits data Nor would he know what the target of the data collection is or what the data shows.


9 posted on 11/25/2024 10:45:20 AM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, black Trump supporter, executed in the street in broad daylight 2020.)
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DoD considerations aside, I want the CIA to go after hacker sites around the world. Chinese, Russian,... wherever.

Langley?

10 posted on 11/25/2024 12:22:16 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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Point made... might need a new FBI for Langley.


11 posted on 11/25/2024 12:26:37 PM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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