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Putin says Russia has tested a new intermediate range missile in a strike on Ukraine
AP News ^ | 11/21/2024 | HANNA ARHIROVA, ILLIA NOVIKOV, AAMER MADHANI AND TARA COPP

Posted on 11/21/2024 12:05:09 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

The Kremlin fired a new intermediate-range ballistic missile at Ukraine on Thursday in response to Kyiv’s use this week of American and British missiles capable of striking deeper into Russia, President Vladimir Putin said.

In a televised address to the country, the Russian president warned that U.S. air defense systems would be powerless to stop the new missile, which he said flies at Mach 10 and which he called the Oreshnik — Russian for hazelnut tree. He also said it could be used to attack any Ukrainian ally whose missiles are used to attack Russia.

“We believe that we have the right to use our weapons against military facilities of the countries that allow to use their weapons against our facilities,” Putin said in his first comments since President Joe Biden gave Ukraine the green light this month to use U.S. ATACMS missiles to strike at limited targets inside Russia.

The attack Thursday on the central Ukrainian city of Dnipro came in response to Kyiv’s use of longer-range U.S. and British missiles in strikes on Russia this week, Putin said.

“In the case of escalation of aggressive actions, we will respond resolutely in a mirror way,” the Russian president said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: bidenbois4ww3; icbm; russia; ukraine
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This move is a promised escalation in response to US and British long range missiles being sent to Ukraine. It would appear if there is another round of escalations between NATO and Russia, the next escalation would be Russian tactical nukes in Ukraine.?.?
1 posted on 11/21/2024 12:05:09 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski
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From the videos I have seen, the tests went very well. The warheads appear to have hit in close proximity.

It used to be believed that the Russian Missiles were inaccurate, so they needed very big warheads. It looks like that is no longer the case.


2 posted on 11/21/2024 12:08:03 PM PST by MMusson ( )
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the next escalation would be Russian tactical nukes in Ukraine.?.?“

It will take more than what we’ve seen for the Russians to go nuclear. It is about as big an escalation as it gets. There is much the Russians can do short of bringing nukes in.


3 posted on 11/21/2024 12:12:30 PM PST by iamgalt
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President Donald J. Trump to Withdraw the United States from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty

“The U.S. withdrawal pursuant to Article XV of the treaty takes effect today because Russia failed to return to full and verified compliance through the destruction of its noncompliant missile system—the SSC-8 or 9M729 ground-launched, intermediate-range cruise missile.”
https://2017-2021.state.gov/u-s-withdrawal-from-the-inf-treaty-on-august-2-2019/

President Donald J. Trump to Withdraw the United States from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-withdraw-united-states-intermediate-range-nuclear-forces-inf-treaty/


4 posted on 11/21/2024 12:12:58 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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It is about as big an escalation as it gets

Nah…tactical nukes are significantly smaller than strategic nukes and have a very limited range. But it would be a significant escalation
6 posted on 11/21/2024 12:19:10 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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This was basically just more “I can use nukes!” rhetoric from Pooty. Trump will NOT like it.


7 posted on 11/21/2024 12:35:01 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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Splitting hairs, introducing nukes clears decks. It would take something huge to provoke Russia to that degree.


8 posted on 11/21/2024 12:37:46 PM PST by iamgalt
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Putin should launch one at Great Britain for a better test.


9 posted on 11/21/2024 12:39:42 PM PST by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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Agreed


10 posted on 11/21/2024 12:40:46 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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The Ukies can respond by basically doing the same thing: Another effective ATACMS or Storm Shadow strike in or around Kursk. Then, what does Pooty do? Fire off another of these impressive sounding expensive but actually not very useful with conventional warheads new missiles? Or does he do more, creating yet another escalation like the introduction of the Norks?


11 posted on 11/21/2024 12:42:32 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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Putin says Russia has tested a new intermediate range missile in a strike on Ukraine

Nothing like performing tests on live victims. Count the bodies and damage after, to see if successful or not.

12 posted on 11/21/2024 12:47:16 PM PST by adorno (CCH)
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Putin going to have an increasingly hard time keeping the hardliners in place:

Dmitry Medvedev @MedvedevRussiaE

So, that's what you wanted? Well, you've damn well got it!

A hypersonic ballistic missile attack

1:06 PM · Nov 21, 2024

13 posted on 11/21/2024 12:52:03 PM PST by McGruff (Making America Great Again)
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They gotta come up with a better name than “Hazelnut Tree” if they want to strike terror into the hearts of their enemies.


14 posted on 11/21/2024 12:55:31 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Then, what does Pooty do?

Sounds like you’re pretty excited to find out. You must not have children. That’s the problem with the US and western LGBT nations. They have no children so they’re nihilistic.
15 posted on 11/21/2024 1:02:05 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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16 posted on 11/21/2024 1:05:20 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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For some reason, the US chose to intervene in a war between two belligerents that were formerly part of the same country, in an area most Americans can't find on a map, with no US vital interests at stake, no obvious way to win, and no exit strategy. Even though we tried something similar before (without success - duh!), and even though this time our selected adversary has nuclear weapons, somebody in the White House apparently figured, "WTF - hold my beer!"

The geniuses who committed us are probably also responsible for our three-part strategery, which appears to be:
(1) Ignore the nukes
(2) Escalate, escalate, escalate
(3) "FAFO!"

Anyone actually expecting any of the 'rainbow and unicorn' results I've seen mentioned, is dreaming...

17 posted on 11/21/2024 1:16:02 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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It is not a test if used against a nation one invaded.


18 posted on 11/21/2024 1:23:07 PM PST by Chicory
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“...the next escalation would be Russian tactical nukes in Ukraine.?.?”
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My idea of a Russian tactical nuke exploded in western Ukraine, and allowing radioactive fallout to drop over Poland, lasted only a few minutes until Bongino suggested it on his radio program...

:-/

The “optics”, however, would be terrible for Putin both with Europe and at Trump’s negotiation table.


19 posted on 11/21/2024 1:31:14 PM PST by Does so (Blue Party plus Green Party= the Blue-Green Party...🇺🇦...Dem☭crats...)
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That would trigger Article 5. of the Budapest agreement.
Not to use nuclear weapons against any non - nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear weapon state.

The democrats and neo-cons would slobber over leaving Trump a war with US troops committed.


20 posted on 11/21/2024 2:10:25 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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