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Marine Corps reveals what went wrong in 2023 missing F-35 saga
Breaking Defense ^ | October 31, 2024 at 5:58 PM | Michael Marrow

Posted on 11/02/2024 9:35:37 AM PDT by Fish Speaker

DENVER — The US Marine Corps revealed today that the F-35B stealth fighter that captured the nation’s attention after going missing for a full day in September 2023 pulled off its inadvertent technological vanishing act due to an electrical malfunction — though the service still said the surviving pilot was to blame for the plane’s eventual crash.

According to the Marine Corps, on Sept. 17, 2023 the F-35 pilot was attempting to climb out of a “missed approach in instrument meteorological conditions and heavy precipitation near Joint Base Charleston, South Carolina,” when he ejected from the plane.

The release said there had been an “electrical event during flight” that took out several on-board systems, and there was a “probability that the helmet-mounted display and panoramic cockpit display were not operational for at least three distinct periods.” Still, the service said, the plane was airworthy.

“The pilot incorrectly diagnosed an out-of-controlled flight emergency and ejected from a flyable aircraft, albeit during a heavy rainstorm compounded with aircraft electrical and display malfunctions,” the Marines Corps said.

Though the pilot punched out successfully and landed safely, the plane went on to fly by itself for 11 minutes and 21 seconds due to the jet’s “advanced automatic flight-control systems,” the service said, before crashing “64 nautical miles northeast of the airfield in Williamsburg County, South Carolina.”

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TOPICS: Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: f35b; mishap
It looks like they blame the pilot for bailing too early since the plane was still capable of flying.
1 posted on 11/02/2024 9:35:37 AM PDT by Fish Speaker
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To: Fish Speaker

Yeah.

You try an IFR missed in heavy IMC with some video game helmet whacking out on you.

He didn’t really have the option of pulling the helmet off his head.


2 posted on 11/02/2024 9:44:27 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Fish Speaker

Oh wow, hadn’t heard what happened to that bird.

By definition flyable and thus salvageable!

Okay, so maybe that particular leatherneck’s not such a good pilot.

Trump should pardon in honor of the Corps’ birthday today.


3 posted on 11/02/2024 9:46:48 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Fish Speaker

Don’t buy the explanation. Overflew me while gardening, and the two were heading north from over sea area.


4 posted on 11/02/2024 9:55:50 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Fish Speaker

Still smells like it was taken over (hacked) and not controllable by the pilot who’s easier to blame than a compromised system.


5 posted on 11/02/2024 9:56:49 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster
All glass cockpit, no "steam gauge' indicators backup for basics. IN heavy rain and the helmet is half blinding you. The pilot was Col. Charles "Tre" Del Pizzo, a Marine officer with 27 years of active service. He was fired as the owing unit CO, but is alive to enjoy his retirement and family. I'd call that a win in my book.

See also - https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/10/31/pilot-of-f-35-crashed-south-carolina-ejected-after-malfunctions-disorientation.html

6 posted on 11/02/2024 10:17:19 AM PDT by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
--- "Overflew me while gardening, and the two were heading north from over sea area."

Adding to the comment, one recalls that the military asked the public for help in locating the wreckage, which seems all the more odd given that the current apologia for the plane and its electronics was all more or functional about or at the time the pilot ejected. CHS is both a military and commercial airport, and monitors all flights. Yet they and the other pilot lost track of it.... Odd.

7 posted on 11/02/2024 10:27:16 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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“...when HE ejected from the plane”

Was it a “he” when the pilot was born, or another social experiment of our now-destroyed military.


8 posted on 11/02/2024 10:31:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Fish Speaker
The release said there had been an “electrical event during flight” that took out several on-board systems, and there was a “probability that the helmet-mounted display and panoramic cockpit display were not operational for at least three distinct periods.” Still, the service said, the plane was airworthy.

“The pilot incorrectly diagnosed an out-of-controlled flight emergency and ejected from a flyable aircraft, albeit during a heavy rainstorm compounded with aircraft electrical and display malfunctions,” the Marines Corps said.

Yes, "a flyable aircraft" all the way to the crash site.

The Marines Corps said a bunch of Kamala word salad.

9 posted on 11/02/2024 10:35:30 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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“The safety of F-35 pilots is our number one priority.....”

That is your damn problem. Pilots are expendable. A nation cannot keep taking $110 million dollar hits. Eventually we lose (like Nazi Germany) with over-priced, overly complicated hardware that can’t easily be replaced.


10 posted on 11/02/2024 10:39:56 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Fish Speaker

Typically, this means flying in cloud or poor weather, where little or nothing can be seen or recognised when looking out of the window. Simulated IMC can be achieved for training purposes by wearing view-limiting devices playfully called hoods, which restrict outside vision and force the trainee to rely on instrument indications only.

14 CFR § 91.175 Takeoff and landing under IFR.
(a) Instrument approaches to civil airports. Unless otherwise authorized by the FAA, when it is necessary to use an instrument approach to a civil airport, each person operating an aircraft must use a standard instrument approach procedure prescribed in part 97 of this chapter for that airport. This paragraph does not apply to United States military aircraft.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/91.175

Most commercial aircraft use IFR for landings as they can’t see right below their nose from final on to touchdown. Each airport has its own rules on descent. But smaller aircraft and even larger ones under certain conditions can create a coflict.

I was involved with one at SF International and went up to the tower to see the argument going on between the airport, the FAA, and the pilots of the commercial craft in a glass room. We just left and considered ourselves lucky as the mistake was actually accomplished by the ATC folks. Went down to Candlestick to watch the game.

wy69


11 posted on 11/02/2024 10:44:12 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: ASOC

All glass cockpit, no “steam gauge’ indicators backup for basics. IN heavy rain and the helmet is half blinding you.

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I see that now - I went looking.

No Backups.

This is REALLY stupid. Obviously no real pilots designed this mess.

A lot has changed in forty+ years.

Oh by the way - Excellent picture. Thanks.


12 posted on 11/02/2024 10:57:32 AM PDT by dagunk
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To: Fish Speaker

It looks like they blame the pilot

Yes its always the pilot because with F-35s there are no plane issues, everything is solved


13 posted on 11/02/2024 11:10:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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14 posted on 11/02/2024 11:18:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Fish Speaker

What company makes the F-35?


15 posted on 11/02/2024 11:28:33 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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He was a full colonel and was relieved as squadron commander. Probably will soon be retiring. I guess he was supposed to go down with his $100 million plane. Probably in the marines anyone’s career is dead after losing a plane.


16 posted on 11/02/2024 11:48:51 AM PDT by xxqqzz
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Probably in the marines anyone’s career is dead after losing a plane.

All depends how you lose it.

17 posted on 11/02/2024 12:49:36 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: higgmeister

“The Marines Corps said a bunch of Kamala word salad.”

***********

“Message management” (i.e., obfuscation) is one thing our institutions are good at.


18 posted on 11/02/2024 12:54:40 PM PDT by Starboard
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