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Catholic church still failing to deal with sexual abuse cases, says Vatican report
The Guardian ^

Posted on 11/01/2024 12:18:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Church leaders who fail to take action against paedophile priests are a “further source of evil” for victims of sexual abuse and should be removed from their posts, the Vatican’s child protection commission has said.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; childabuse; ebbturd

1 posted on 11/01/2024 12:18:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Here’s a novel idea, stop making queers, priests. The Bible literally says not to.

Also, let a priest be married, just like the bible says.


2 posted on 11/01/2024 12:23:35 PM PDT by Skwor
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To: SoConPubbie

You sleaze are coming out hard for the Catholic Church. Of course there were atrocities committed with less than 2% of Priests and others doing evil but man, you all just can’t help yourselves with the onslaught.
I thought ebbturd was kind of the lone Catholic Hater but ya’ll are multiplying.
We will have it rough when Kamal-toe and Co. come into power so thanks for coming hard with the hate to kick us true Catholics in gear for the fight.
I’ll pray for you sad sacks...


3 posted on 11/01/2024 12:28:47 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: SavannahWonderer

I’m Catholic. There’s nothing wrong with this post. It’s true that this situation has been poorly dealt with by many bishops and that it is a source of evil. Pray for all in the hierarchy to do what is necessary to remove those who are a danger to people and doctrine.


4 posted on 11/01/2024 12:37:31 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Skwor
At our parish, a rule was put into effect about 15 years ago: there must be two adults in situations involving children. I taught 6th grade Old Testament during that time. That rule worked perfectly.

I do recall one night where I was the only teacher, for 3 classes. Yikes! We found another adult, and the class was in my wheelhouse. The subject was agape love, a topic in one of Fr. Bob Spitzerz’ books. To say I nailed it is an understatement. Try and imagine 45 sixth graders listening intently, not talking for 30 minutes. Their questions were spot on, it was an incredible experience.

Simple rule, intended results.

I learned years later that our undergrad degrees from Gonzaga were both accounting degrees…I followed him by 2 years. Father Spitzer is one of the most dynamic speakers I’ve ever known.

5 posted on 11/01/2024 12:50:49 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: SavannahWonderer; SoConPubbie

The issue isn’t that the abuse happens. People understand that abusers will find a way to abuse.

The issue is how it’s been dealt with, or not.

Protecting and enabling the abusers and silencing the victims is wrong. Period.

God gives instructions in Scripture in how to deal with church discipline and sexual immorality within the church body, along with qualifications for deacon and elder.

If those were followed, none of this would be an issue.

As it is, the failure of the Catholic hierarchy to appropriately deal with the abuse when it comes to their attention, clean up their ranks, administer appropriate church discipline, and turn the perp over for appropriate justice through the court system, is its big and continuing failure.

We’ve been assured time and again over the years that someone in the Catholic hierarchy is dealing with this and it’s no longer the issue it once was.

Clearly that hasn’t happened.

It is not *hate* to recognize the facts of the matter, even if it feels good for you to screech about it like a deranged leftist.


6 posted on 11/01/2024 12:58:46 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: SavannahWonderer
The Vatican’s child protection commission has said.

Dude, we are all on the same page here and want the same thing, to protect the kids. The Church has failed to do so in far to many instances over the years and this commission is recognizing that there is a serious problem.

Humanity and the world needs a strong and growing Catholic Church.

Sadly, and I don't want to accuse you, but your denial is exactly what this commission is trying to address with the senior leadership within the Church.

I pray the Vatican takes it's recommendations seriously.

7 posted on 11/01/2024 1:03:10 PM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: SoConPubbie
I can accept that there are Catholic priests who violate young boys (and girls). But what I *don't* understand is that we *never* hear similar stories about Protestant ministers,Rabbis,moslem imams (etc,etc) doing such things.

Thinking back to that NBC series "To Catch A Predator" they caught at least one physician,one lawyer,one cop,one teacher,one guy who *knew* Chris Hansen,one military man and one clergyman.That clergyman was a Rabbi....a youth counselor,in fact.

One would almost think that there's a concerted effort to suggest that that's what defines the Catholic church.

8 posted on 11/01/2024 1:09:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: SavannahWonderer; ebb tide

The person you call “ebbturd,” is a Catholic.

He annoys me, but deserves respect for putting up news.


9 posted on 11/01/2024 1:14:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: pgyanke

It’s just a mark of the beast see the endless hate aimed at the Catholic Church. Pointing out the onslaught of anti-Catholic dribble is NOT accepting the evil perpetrated by a very small number of Priests. The pathetic authors of hate are used to us good ones keeping quiet.
100 to 1 is the ratio of hate to good articles.


10 posted on 11/01/2024 1:22:27 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: ConservativeMind; SavannahWonderer

Thank for the ping, CM.

SavannaWonderer, I recommend you check out my homepage. You gave me a good laugh.


11 posted on 11/01/2024 1:24:53 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: metmom

And it’s article after article after article about the same thing.
My rant is about the perpetual hate that demonstrated by the endless, same issue.
The issue of sex abuse existed (reduced to almost nil), it’s being significantly dealt with, procedures to guard against the continuance, and healing is ongoing.
Oh wait, someone just posted another article about the same thing...


12 posted on 11/01/2024 1:27:17 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: usurper

“...your denial...” - Nope, no denial. Exert from my original post:
Of course there were atrocities committed with less than 2% of Priests and others doing evil but man, you all just can’t help yourselves with the onslaught.


13 posted on 11/01/2024 1:30:33 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: ConservativeMind

Well it (ebbturd) is a self-hating Catholic. That’s anti-Catholic.


14 posted on 11/01/2024 1:32:17 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: ebb tide

I have checked you out. You’re in need of help, beyond just prayer (which is key) but real spiritual guidance.
All you post is stuff that puts the Catholic Church in a bad light. You disguise it as anti-Pope and such but it’s fundamentally anti-Catholic.
That’s not wholesome, that’s sad.


15 posted on 11/01/2024 1:36:01 PM PDT by SavannahWonderer (First do no harm)
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To: SavannahWonderer

Thanks for the clarification about yourself.

Anybody who identifies the Catholic Church solely to Jorge Bergoglio is a poor ignorant papist who would literally follow him into Hell.

I’ll now include you in my prayers.


16 posted on 11/01/2024 1:41:06 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
we *never* hear similar stories about Protestant ministers

It's not a Catholic monopoly.

SBC report

Mormon report

17 posted on 11/01/2024 1:52:11 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I can accept that there are Catholic priests who violate young boys (and girls). But what I *don't* understand is that we *never* hear similar stories about Protestant ministers,Rabbis,moslem imams (etc,etc) doing such things.

You admit you are blind, but apparently can still type. It's also possible you are just plain stupid.

Here are those “*never*” stories about sex issues with non-Catholics, just from the past week, and just from one Free Republic poster:

The Heartwood-Northwestern Symposium: A Groundbreaking Gathering Centering Survivors of Sexual Violence in Buddhism
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4274673/posts

Church Musician, Youth Pastor Gets 50 Years After Impregnating 14-Year-Old Girl
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4274659/posts

MI Youth Pastor Led a ‘Double Life,’ Faces Up to Life in Prison for Alleged Sexual Misconduct Against Children
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4272927/posts

Now, you can read of the sex problems others’ have.

Enjoy!

18 posted on 11/01/2024 2:18:57 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SavannahWonderer
Well it (ebbturd) is a self-hating Catholic. That’s anti-Catholic.

Remember this?

My! How quickly have you turned!

19 posted on 11/01/2024 4:24:46 PM PDT by ebb tide ("The Spirit of Vatican II" is nothing more than a wicked "ideology" of the modernists.)
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