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2 Lawmakers Attempt The Impossible: Saving Social Security
Epoch Times ^ | 10/25/2024 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 10/25/2024 7:10:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/25/2024 7:10:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s so completely pathetic.
1-stop pissing away our wealth on illegal aliens
2-stop pissing away our wealth on welfare
3-stop pissing away our wealth on Ukraine
4-stop pissing away our wealth on the UN

Don’t have to go any further than this.


2 posted on 10/25/2024 7:14:00 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: vpintheak

Exactly.


3 posted on 10/25/2024 7:14:38 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: SeekAndFind

If junkie Jezebel manages to steal the election in 2 weeks, SS will be gone and gee whiz just in time for me to collect it after paying into it since I was 13. She has every intention of putting the criminal foreign invaders she allows into the country to collect it, more like steal it.


4 posted on 10/25/2024 7:15:09 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: SeekAndFind

The assumptions underlying these discussions are blatant lies.

There is no actual Social Security Trust Fund with any real money in it so there is no “trust fund” to “balance”.

https://moneymorning.com/2017/03/31/the-social-security-trust-fund-is-just-a-stack-of-ious-in-a-west-virginia-filing-cabinet/

Anyone who says different is lying.

Full stop.

Social Security is a pay as you go system.

Congress collects the taxes.

Congress pays the benefits.

They can change the law any time they want—for any reason they want—by any formula they want.

It can be rational or irrational—anything they want.

Full stop.

Any claim otherwise is a lie.


5 posted on 10/25/2024 7:18:13 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Alan Greenspan said it best about being able to “save” Social Security but the purchasing power of those benefits were questionable.


6 posted on 10/25/2024 7:20:43 PM PDT by pterional
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To: SeekAndFind
SS is 100% dependent on FICA and illegals don't get checks.

If they do, they're personal or "petty cash" and again, no FICA withheld.

American workers are supposed to be payin' in for their own retirement.

7 posted on 10/25/2024 7:26:35 PM PDT by knarf
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To: cgbg
Social Security is a pay as you go system.

I wish more people understood this. I also wish more people understood that Social Security is an intergenerational wealth transfer program, not any kind of "insurance" or investment.

8 posted on 10/25/2024 7:30:39 PM PDT by Terabitten (Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor...)
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Correct.

The politicians of both parties for many decades have maliciously and intentionally told lie after lie after lie about this government program...

so of course most people believe the lies.

Most folks have real lives and are not going to waste their time researching this stuff.

(A friend of mine wrote a book about it decades ago so that is why I knew about it back then.)


9 posted on 10/25/2024 7:34:23 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: SeekAndFind

The SS crisis is one of many consequences of the aborted generations.

The babies aborted at Roe v. Wade in 1973 would have entered the workforce around 1991.

Their children—assuming they “started early’—would have entered the workforce around 2009.

We are just a couple of years away from when the GRANCHILDREN of aborted of 1973 would be entering the workforce.


10 posted on 10/25/2024 7:51:51 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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The dems and rinos passed the bill to give SS to illegals
who never paid into it.

sen.grahm was one of them (booo)


11 posted on 10/25/2024 8:15:37 PM PDT by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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Also,no such thing as a SS Trust Fund.It went into general funds under lbj.


12 posted on 10/25/2024 8:19:15 PM PDT by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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To: SeekAndFind
"Social Security the largest federal entitlement program."

It is not an entitlement program. Employers and employees pay into a trust fund. I began telling people fifty year ago that the rate should be 8% for each, if you expected to pay the costs.

13 posted on 10/25/2024 10:51:17 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is an IRS regulation under code section 412 that says an Enrolled Actuary may not use a funding method that pays for 99% of the benefits of a private pension plan. Yet somehow, it’s OK to fund less than 100% of Social Security benefits. Repeatedly.

The program transfers wealth between generations. Between different income levels. Depending on the assumptions, it’s racist and sexist and collarist.

The employer does not pay half the contribution in practice. The employer looks at what the employee provides, decides what they are willing to pay in total, and reflect the SS contribution when making an offer.


14 posted on 10/26/2024 12:41:19 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: vpintheak

That would be a great start. Return it to original intent.


15 posted on 10/26/2024 3:26:13 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: vpintheak

Yes!
It’s not impossible, but it does take the will to make it happen.
That includes politicians raiding every pot with a dime in it. Fat chance of that!


16 posted on 10/26/2024 5:58:14 AM PDT by Fireone ("and dumb & silent we may be led, like sheep, to the Slaughter." G. Washington 1783)
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To: SeekAndFind

An audit of Social Security will probably reveal huge numbers of enrollees are not eligible. Them most recent example are the millions of illegal aliens added. Cleanse the rolls for starters, and you may well solve a big part of the problem.


17 posted on 10/26/2024 8:27:20 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Retain Mike

“Employers and employees pay into a trust fund”

Meet the “trust fund”:

https://moneymorning.com/2017/03/31/the-social-security-trust-fund-is-just-a-stack-of-ious-in-a-west-virginia-filing-cabinet/


18 posted on 10/26/2024 8:29:45 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg
The fact the Congress and Administrations chose to destroy it, at least since the days of LBJ, is not my problem. I’ll keep calling it a trust fund.

What Is Social Security?

www.investopedia.com/terms/s/socialsecurity.asp

19 posted on 10/26/2024 8:49:44 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Retain Mike

That is like calling the Moon a planet.

You can do it if you want—but you might want to reconsider.

:-)


20 posted on 10/26/2024 8:52:22 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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