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Ukrainian battalion's retreat leads to tragedy and unrest
MSN News ^ | October 7, 2024 | Mateusz Czmiel

Posted on 10/08/2024 6:51:30 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

The commander of the 186th Battalion of the 123rd Ukrainian Territorial Defense Brigade, Igor Hryba, allegedly committed suicide. The reason was reportedly the retreat of his battalion, which refused to follow orders and abandoned their positions near Vuhledar. This reportedly contributed to the fall of the stronghold, which had been defended for over two years.

Ukrainian media are searching for the reasons that led to the fall of the Vuhledar stronghold. This city in the Donetsk region has been fiercely resisting Russian aggression since the start of the full-scale war. Commander suicide. His brigade fled

Ukrainian journalist Volodymyr Boiko, serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, announced that on October 2, just before the fall of Vuhledar, the commander of the 186th Battalion of the 123rd Territorial Defense Brigade, committed suicide.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: pincer; ukraine
Seems the Ukrainian soldiers found out who they were fighting for.
1 posted on 10/08/2024 6:51:30 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot
...allegedly committed suicide.

A skeptical person might determine that he was fragged with his own sidearm by his own retreating troops when they were told to stay and fight.

"Kill yourself or we kill you...and it won't be clean."

/skepticism

2 posted on 10/08/2024 6:57:45 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
We all know MSN would never lie, or disinform, just ask PBS or Radio Free Europe.

Or any other GloboHomo outlet.

3 posted on 10/08/2024 7:06:00 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

While the Kiev nazis fiddle, Ugledar burns.


4 posted on 10/08/2024 7:07:33 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ukie solders retreating? Say it ain’t so. Don’t tell MiniMaxiePad and The Canuck..


5 posted on 10/08/2024 7:14:40 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: Navy Patriot

Better yet, the corrupted western media is waking up. Events like these were never reported by western sources, only senile Joe’s narrative that the Ukies are “ winning”.

Senile Joe’s MSM will start preparing the American sheeple for the Ukies defeat, about time.


6 posted on 10/08/2024 7:17:24 AM PDT by delta7
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To: tennmountainman

Ukie solders retreating?
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They have been getting grinded into the dirt, Marioupol, Bakmut, Avidiivka, Ugledar, and on and on.

Post war analysis will be shocking to senile Joe’s war cheerleaders. For three years nothing but how the Ukies are winning, then one day, suddenly, they will be sitting at the table signing all of Vlad’s stated goals….unconditional surrender would suite me just fine….a rump nation of Ukraine- a just outcome for St Z and what he did to his country.


7 posted on 10/08/2024 7:29:04 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Navy Patriot
--- "Seems the Ukrainian soldiers found out who they were fighting for."

This sort of news -- republished by MSN, not some 'fly-by-night,' conservative-leaning media -- that something "not positive" is happening in the Ukraine is interesting. The media narrative is eroding rather rapidly. Seems Biden isn't convincing enough now....

Over a year ago....

Biden wraps European trip, declares Putin's "already lost the war" in Ukraine CBS News, 13 July 2023

Rather recently....

Biden Says Only ‘Lord Almighty’ Could Make Him Quit Race NY Times, 25 July 2024

One may recall the ego of Biden, which was assidously ignored in the MSN-sort of news:

"Biden noted that he is not just running a campaign, stating, 'I run the world. It might sound like an exaggeration, but it's not; we are the country at the center of the world'."

Joe Biden mixes up the years: "I'll defeat Trump in 2020" A News, 6 July 2024

Recap: 1) Biden -- still in office -- runs the world, 2) Putin lost the war in 2023, and 3) only ‘Lord Almighty’ could keep him from running again. Oops. Oops. Oops.

The Democrat chaos has been evident in the war between two non-NATO nations, in the US, and even in his own re-election campaign.

Additionally, now that Liz Cheney is campaigning with Harris, one finds the "conservatives" aligned with corrupt, vacuous Democrats are showing themselves to be anything but "conservative."

8 posted on 10/08/2024 7:47:47 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ukrainian supply lines are getting cut in Donetsk, which mean faster retreating as supplies/ammo/equipment isn’t getting to areas at the front.


9 posted on 10/08/2024 8:07:28 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.You will suffer from one: The pain of discipline or the pain of regret. )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
This sort of news -- republished by MSN, not some 'fly-by-night,' conservative-leaning media -- that something "not positive" is happening in the Ukraine is interesting. The media narrative is eroding rather rapidly.

Agree, thanks Traveler, that's why I posted it.

10 posted on 10/08/2024 8:11:49 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Ukrainian supply lines are getting cut in Donetsk...

Yes, and elsewhere.

11 posted on 10/08/2024 8:15:46 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: tennmountainman

Them and the rest of the corrupt deep state will just order the survivors of Helene to head to the nearest operational airport and prepare to be deployed to the Ukraine.

The storm took TN/NC’s residents: businesses, homes and some of their lives. The warmongers and illegals STOLE their relief money and they have no problem requiring the lives of those who survived as well. Their motto: how much more should we give? More-More-More$$$ and blood!!!


12 posted on 10/08/2024 8:56:15 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: tennmountainman; Navy Patriot
>>>>Ukie solders retreating? Say it ain’t so. Don’t tell MiniMaxiePad and The Canuck..<<<<

From the article:

TSN journalist Julia Kiriyenko also confirms these reports. In a Facebook post, she claims that the 72nd Brigade, which had been defending Vuhledar since the beginning, was supposed to be supported by the 123rd Territorial Defense Brigade, but "the infantry scattered somewhere, and then one of the fighters shot himself."

Due to the 123rd Brigade's "escape," the 72nd Brigade's evacuation was delayed, reportedly costing many soldiers' lives. "The brigade comprises seven battalions. In several of them, after battles around Vuhledar, there was no more infantry," it's reported.

"I think it's possible to imagine the mental and psychological state of the soldiers. Even commanders are submitting requests to be removed from their posts," adds Kiriyenko.

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“the infantry scattered somewhere"

"after battles around Vuhledar, there was no more infantry”

"Even commanders are submitting requests to be removed from their posts"

Why aren't any zeepers posting this important news?

BTW, has anyone seen Zelensky today?

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13 posted on 10/08/2024 9:33:13 AM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: delta7
the Ukraine military has been on the ropes for quite some time.

Any serious push by the Russians would collapse Ukrainian resistance in a matter of days.

The Ukrainian leadership has squandered the aid they have been given and they have absolutely zero negotiating leverage to negotiate a favorable peace agreement.

14 posted on 10/08/2024 10:23:53 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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