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Victor Davis Hanson: Our Ukrainian War Narrative—Paradoxes, Obsessions, and Disconnects
American Greatness ^ | 30 Sep, 2024 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/30/2024 4:43:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Why does the Biden-Harris administration deify Zelensky and Ukraine but demonize Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel?

About half of America sympathizes with Ukraine’s plight and wishes to arm it.

After all, Kyiv was attacked preemptively by Vladimir Putin on February 24, 2022, in an effort to decapitate its government and turn the country into a Russian satellite, perhaps similar to the status of a Belarus or Chechnya.

The heroic ability of the Ukrainians to save Kyiv and to stop the Russian assault beyond the occupied Donbas and Crimea has hinged on Western weapons deliveries, specifically from European NATO countries and, to a far greater extent, the United States.

But now, after a reported 1 million combined dead, wounded, or missing Ukrainians and Russians (the actual figure is probably far higher), the war remains deadlocked with no end in sight.

Putin serially threatens to break the static front with tactical nuclear weapons. The Europeans are tiring. And no one in the United States has come up with a strategy to push back the Russians from either their February 2022 demarcation points or their post-2014 occupation of Ukrainian borderlands.

The result is a lot of disconnects, paradoxes, and mysteries about the war, the Biden administration’s role in it, and the general geostrategic landscape surrounding the conflict.

Ukrainian Election Interference?

Americans are demonized by the Uniparty elites for having doubts about their blank-check support for Ukraine. And while the American people are mostly anti-Putin, they are not always pro-Ukraine.

But why is that so?

For one, we know that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election.

Even leftwing Politico reported that Ukrainians in the U.S. gathered opposition research on Trump campaign officials and passed it to the Clinton campaign and thus likely her appendages in government.

(Excerpt) Read more at amgreatness.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: thecorruption; theputin; therussia; thesmo; theukraine; ukraine; vdh; victordavishanson; war
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1 posted on 09/30/2024 4:43:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Ukraine seems to be a money laundering operation for leftist politicians who are drawn to corruption like flies.


2 posted on 09/30/2024 4:43:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: texas booster

VDH ping


3 posted on 09/30/2024 4:44:10 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

Excellent article by Dr. Hanson. Bookmarked.

The hundreds of billions of Dollars sent over there are especially galling when just a fraction of that spent on Hurricane victims and a border wall and enforcement would have reaped dividends.


4 posted on 09/30/2024 4:51:34 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber

It is worth noting that Putin and Russia support Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas.


5 posted on 09/30/2024 4:55:31 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: MtnClimber

“And while the American people are mostly anti-Putin, they are not always pro-Ukraine. But why is that so? For one, we know that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election.”

Something that doesn’t seem to bother the Zeepers here one bit. I wonder why?


6 posted on 09/30/2024 4:57:37 AM PDT by BobL
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To: marktwain
It is worth noting that Putin and Russia support Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas.

And 0mama, Biden and Harris also seem to support Iran (and through them Hezbollah, and Hamas).

7 posted on 09/30/2024 4:59:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

btt


8 posted on 09/30/2024 5:00:04 AM PDT by GailA (kamalaczar and herr waltz want to turn America into a commie country. Vote Trump.)
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To: rlmorel

“ The hundreds of billions of Dollars sent over there are especially galling when just a fraction of that spent on Hurricane victims and a border wall and enforcement would have reaped dividends.”
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ZEEPERS have long since decided that prioritizing Ukrainian interests over the interests of American citizens is RIGHTEOUS. / sadly, this is not sarcasm


9 posted on 09/30/2024 5:01:17 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: MtnClimber

Thanks for posting. GREAT Information from VDH.


10 posted on 09/30/2024 5:07:21 AM PDT by PGalt ( Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: MtnClimber

Excellent piece, but VDH could look a bit further into why Russia went into Ukraine (i.e., the 10 million or so Russians living in Ukraine who were in the process of being ethnically-cleansed by government looking to ‘purify’ Ukraine).

But, overall, still good, and it’s particularly good to be reminded that those supporting the Ukrainian government are also supporting what Ukraine did to Trump, and by extension to the United States, over the past 8 years.


11 posted on 09/30/2024 5:14:44 AM PDT by BobL
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To: MtnClimber

Very disappointing analysis by VDH.


12 posted on 09/30/2024 5:51:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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I agree. He didn’t go far enough emphasizing how corrupt and authoritarian the dictator Zelensky is, and how closely he is aligned with all things Democrat/anti-Trump.


13 posted on 09/30/2024 5:58:06 AM PDT by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy)
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To: BobL
Excellent piece, but VDH could look a bit further into why Russia went into Ukraine (i.e., the 10 million or so Russians living in Ukraine who were in the process of being ethnically-cleansed by government looking to ‘purify’ Ukraine).

Maybe because Victor Davis Hanson understands that that is an outrageous canard.

Regards,

14 posted on 09/30/2024 6:02:35 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Codeflier

And I believe he bought into the US/UK narrative of who started the scenario that led to a preemptive ( preemptive is right) invasion and that the Russians seriously planned to take Kiev.

That “3 days to take Kiev” came from, I believe, an assessment by our own ponderously bloviating CJCS who as a supposed Army genius was well aware the Russian deployment was sized as a feint, not a force intended to capture a million-resident city.


15 posted on 09/30/2024 6:03:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: MtnClimber

This guy is so full of $hit when it comes to the unprovoked proxy war started in 2014 by the CIA.

“deadlocked, no end in sight”, what a ridiculous statement.

After buying four of this fool’s books I find out this idiot is a MIC goon.


16 posted on 09/30/2024 6:04:54 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: texas booster
Amazing brilliance as ever from VDH. He does comparisons I didn't think to.

In the present war, Ukraine has likely become the target of some 8,000-10,000 missiles launched from Russia. Yet that number is still smaller than the some 20,000 projectiles sent into Israel by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Iran.

17 posted on 09/30/2024 6:08:03 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: alexander_busek

“Maybe because Victor Davis Hanson understands that that is an outrageous canard.”

The thing is, you know that it’s TOTALLY TRUE!

Regards,
BobL


18 posted on 09/30/2024 6:13:31 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

I always remember what the Bible has to say about Israel.


19 posted on 09/30/2024 6:23:06 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: MtnClimber

Proxies?

So we are iran now?’)


20 posted on 09/30/2024 6:23:10 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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