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The Russians cut off several Ukrainian brigades in one move - They have only two options!
Serbin Info News Aggregator ^ | September 7, 2024

Posted on 09/07/2024 4:45:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

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To: canuck_conservative

You are wasting your time.

Just ignore the threads. You are not changing anyone’s mind. Some of them are just too small and too closed.


41 posted on 09/08/2024 3:46:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Yes - very much deep in the rear, like any good brown-shirt...   
42 posted on 09/08/2024 4:28:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: canuck_conservative; icclearly

lookit the little FR hall monitor-snitch...


43 posted on 09/08/2024 4:30:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Navy Patriot

The face of every zeeper these days...


44 posted on 09/08/2024 4:31:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: canuck_conservative; kiryandil; icclearly; All
do you think maybe that has any connection to shrinking donations?

You could ask Joe Biden for Sanctions, you're on board for those.

If you don't get 'em, you can return to your previous strategy.


45 posted on 09/08/2024 5:14:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Keb
The war in Ukraine, though, is entirely President Putin’s responsibility.

That's your opinion.

That don't make it so, now does it?

It's like other parts of your body. Almost everybody here has one.

For NATO nations to devote 300 billion, around half a percent of government spending

You miss the point entirely. If only it was just another $300 billion that we don't have -- but must borrow. Our wars/invasions over the last 60 years, along with other mismanagement, have pushed us to $40 trillion in debt which has the potential to lead us into economic armageddon.

You know these WARS, INVASIONS and SUBVERSIONS of sovereign countries around the globe....

-Vietnam
-Iraq
-Afganastain
-And many others, both military and subversion (like the 2014 Ukraine Maidan revolution, Arab spring, and others)

We've driven the global south, including Russia, into one another's arms with our economic war, our subversion, and our kinetic wars.

Do you know about BRICS yet? In case you don't, the combined GDP for all BRICS now exceeds the GDP of the West (G7). That's sure going in the right direction. Right?

We are long past the time when we can solve the world's problems through intimidation and war. Heck, we can't even solve our own problems. Our problems in case you missed them while worried about them Ukies...

-Invasions across our southern border
-Rampant crime in all of our major cities
-An out-of-control government attacking political enemies with our judicial system
-Nutcases killing one another in needless shootings
-Destruction and downward spiral of every major institution (media, government, education, corporate world) with LBJWXYZ obsession and woke ideology
-$40 trillion in debt
-There's more -- I'll stop here, though. The above list should give you an idea.

And you're worried about them Ukies! WOW.

Every single empire that has ever existed on this planet has cratered, and it usually starts by rotting from the inside.

Guess who has an abundance of rot?

Mr. Putin sure does not have a monopoly on invading other countries, as I pointed out earlier with our examples over the last 60 years. In fact, if you're keeping score, it's US about 10 or more, Russia 2.

Sure. Just keep on focusing on them Ukies and Zelensky the homo-clown. It's all working out real well for us -- NOT!

46 posted on 09/08/2024 5:48:02 PM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Navy Patriot
You could ask Joe Biden for Sanctions, you're on board for those

BINGO!

Sticks and stones will hurt my bones, but Canuck's words just make me laugh :-).

HA, HA, HA, HA, HA.......

47 posted on 09/08/2024 5:55:16 PM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: icclearly
Canuck's plans for you are to get you to Laugh Yourself To Death.

Interestingly, it's the same plan for Putin.

48 posted on 09/08/2024 7:18:08 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: adorno
a second rate army

Way to denigrate the hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded Joe Ukrainians that have died in yet another failed CIA clusterhump .

The poor slob Ukies are now being snatched up off of the streets to keep the bodies flowing for the Forever War Club. Those boys are winding up here. They died for what , Joe Biden’s 10% ?


49 posted on 09/08/2024 7:45:36 PM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-circuit authority)
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To: OldHarbor
Way to denigrate the hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded Joe Ukrainians that have died in yet another failed CIA clusterhump .

The poor slob Ukies are now being snatched up off of the streets to keep the bodies flowing for the Forever War Club. Those boys are winding up here. They died for what , Joe Biden’s 10% ?


Sounds exactly like Putin talking points, and with a photo to enhance the Putin propaganda. Do better next time.
50 posted on 09/09/2024 6:55:52 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: jerod

Leaders like you are how troops die in a hurry.

You might want to read Sun Tzu.

The Ukes best option at this point is surrender.


51 posted on 09/09/2024 6:58:30 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: adorno
Here’s the “Russian Propaganda” from Voice of America lol, chump.


Relatives mourn over new graves of Ukrainian soldiers killed in recent battles as national and military units flags wave in a military cemetery in Lviv, Ukraine, April 23, 2023.


Undertakers lower the coffin of Ukrainian serviceman Andrii Romanenko at the Kryvyi Rih cemetery in eastern Ukraine, April 24, 2023.


Relatives mourn next to the coffin of Ukrainian serviceman Andrii Vorobiov at the Kryvyi Rih cemetery in eastern Ukraine, April 24, 2023.

What rock did you crawl out from under.

52 posted on 09/09/2024 7:11:52 AM PDT by OldHarbor (strained statutory arguments, appeals to inconsistent history, reliance on out-of-circuit authority)
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To: OldHarbor
What rock did you crawl out from under.

That's a good question for YOU to answer.

I wonder if you're aware that in wars, people die and the relatives and friends are left behind to mourn the losses. I also wonder if you are aware that the Russians have also suffered as many or more dead than the Ukrainians. The Russian families and friends of the dead Russians also mourn their loses. It's not a one-sided war, I'll have you know.

So, can you get us the photos of the Russian families mourning their losses at cemeteries? Bet Putin won't allow it, because the photos would be a lot more disturbing and numerous than that of the Ukrainians.
53 posted on 09/09/2024 8:24:36 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: Keb

😂😂😂😂


54 posted on 09/09/2024 3:44:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: ShawnShawntheLeprecaun

Good grief, click the translate button, smart arse!


55 posted on 09/09/2024 3:55:28 PM PDT by ANKE69 ( ✌️ 🇺🇲 )
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To: icclearly

What makes President Putin’s invasion of Ukraine entirely his responsibility, is not my opinion. What makes it entirely his responsibility, is that he decided to do it. He is responsible for his own actions. No one was holding a gun to his head. Do try to keep up.

You’re missing the significance of the fact that NATO’s support for Ukraine has been small, as the costs of major wars go. Half a percent of government spending is a lot, if you’re building a parking lot. When the largest nation in the world, and the most heavily armed nation in the world (both of which are Russia), invades a major neighbor for the stated purpose of replacing her government with one that will do as Moscow says, it’s a larger matter. This is something that everyone whose duties include engaging with the international situation, needs to attend to.

The problem with the Biden administration being more concerned with Ukraine’s borders, than with the United States’ borders, is not that the Biden administration cares about Ukraine’s borders. They should. The problem is not caring about the United States’ borders. The centerpiece of United States foreign policy, since World War II, has been preventing Moscow from conquering any further West. This was not an accident. When the largest, most heavily armed nation in the world is on a conquistadorial tear, that’s of interest to everyone.

That the United States is far in debt, is not really relevant. Some things, such as wars, crimes, and prison breaks, must be dealt with at the time they happen. You don’t get to wait, to put your finances in better shape. If your point is that the United Stases Government should be managing her money more responsibly (which is a low bar), that’s true, but any attempt to put the United States’ budget into better shape does need to look at the bigger pieces.

You’re missing the meaning of your own examples. North Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were all aggressor states. The United States only began to fight them after they had attacked other nations, or, in the case of Afghanistan, after she attacked the United States. (Under international law, when Afghanistan sheltered Bid Laden, after 9-11, Bin Laden’s attack on the United States became Afghanistan’s responsibility, and an act of war by Afghanistan against the United States.) Like almost all of your other claims of the United States starting wars against sovereign countries, you got these wrong.

Russia is the main power attacking peaceful nations by subversion and kinetic wars. (Not as much economic war; the Russian economy isn’t all that strong.)

The fact that the United States also has many other problems, is not a justification for ignoring this one. Like every other nation, at every time in history I can name, the United States faces many problems which she must address currently. Even worse, many of our present government elements, seem to be trying to make things worse in many area. But it would be another wrong for our government to ignore major wars affecting our allies, just because of the multitude of areas in which our governments have responsibilities. Almost never does a government have the luxury of being able to focus on just one thing.

Of course I care about the Ukrainians. Anyone with basic human empathy cares when a megamaniacal dictator kills people by the hundreds of thousands. I also care about the Russians that Putin’s war is killing. If you don’t, a good therapist might be able to help you recover your humanity.

Time does bring most things to an end, and I expect that Moscow’s empire will fall eventually, but that’s no excuse for not facing it while it does exist. (I take it that you actually don’t realize that Russia has a greater abundance of rot than either Ukraine or the United States.)

Mr. Putin, indeed, doesn’t have a monopoly on invading other countries. But in the present state of play, he is the biggest problem humanity faces.

I hope you’re at least getting paid for the Putin-boosting.


56 posted on 09/09/2024 5:35:24 PM PDT by Keb
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To: Keb
What makes President Putin’s invasion of Ukraine entirely his responsibility, is not my opinion. What makes it entirely his responsibility, is that he decided to do it.

It IS your opinion, and you continue to misrepresent the facts by omitting very important facts.

1. We lied about NATO expansion (aggression to the east)
2. We placed missiles right up to Russia's border via NATO allies
3. We invaded Ukraine via Nueland and McCain's CIA-sponsored Maidan to take over the country in 2014 -- and make them mercenaries of the US/NATO (not a single US soldier on Ukie territory).
4. We had a stated goal to regime change Russia and break apart the country (No threat there. Right?)

So, Mr. Putin would have been derelict and a fool not to take action. What would we have done if China placed missiles in Mexico and Canada? I know! The same as we did in 1962 with Cuba (90 miles off of our border) -- we invaded Cuba (Bay of Pigs), and then we sent out a massive fleet to embargo that sovereign country and threaten the Russian fleet with WWIII. By the way, that embargo still exists to this day, contrary to a vast majority of the world's countries in the UN voting to stop it.

The United States only began to fight them after they had attacked other nations, or, in the case of Afghanistan, after she attacked the United States. (Under international law

Once again, you totally miss the point. Why is it our job to protect every country on earth -- while we continue to neglect our own? And then to create lies to justify military invasion (Vietnam -- commies are coming, Iraq -- WMDs). As for Afganasain, they did not attack us! And your feeble "international law" claim will be valid when you provide the source and quote for that law. I don't believe your lies for a minute.

Anyone with basic human empathy cares when a megamaniacal dictator kills people by the hundreds of thousands.

Where were you with your "empathy" when the Ukies shot protestors in the 2014 Maidan revolution, and then they continued to kill 14,000 of their own citizens after they forbade them to speak their native tongue and bombed them from that day on? Yep. I can see you really care and have great empathy.

I expect that Moscow’s empire will fall eventually...

Oh, there you go again! Just another opinion. Pray tell how they will fall and who will be the "fallor?" Because whoever it is, they have done a great job of remaining in hiding.

Here's the bottom line. It's quite obvious you've bought into the brainwashing hoax of Russian collusion and an evil Putin. A technique that we've been using for almost 60 years. You know, first attack and demean, then create propaganda/lies about the potential enemy target, and finally launch either a CIA clandestine attack or outright military-style invasion.

And here you are, defending our right to invade sovereign countries because of our so-called superior morals while demeaning anyone else's right to do the same. Most of us call that -- BLATENT HYPROCRISY!

57 posted on 09/10/2024 5:47:14 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: icclearly

My “opinion” is to pay attention to the facts. I take it that your “opinion” is to pretend the facts don’t exist, and fantasize something that defends President Putin.

Your lies about the United States’ previous actions aren’t really relevant. Your recycling of old lies doesn’t make you interesting to talk to. I doubt I’ll look in on this thread again. Have a nice life.


58 posted on 09/14/2024 11:11:13 AM PDT by Keb
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To: Keb
I take it that your “opinion” is to pretend the facts don’t exist, and fantasize something that defends President Putin.

Well, sir. I gave you plenty of facts that matter -- which you conveniently choose to ignore.

I doubt I’ll look in on this thread again.

Now, that there's a good thing.

Yep! A very good thing!

59 posted on 09/14/2024 2:28:42 PM PDT by icclearly
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