Posted on 08/31/2024 10:59:08 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III
Roughly 10 years after California tried and failed to ban plastic bags at grocery stores, state lawmakers have passed a law that they say will forever end the choice of "paper or plastic" in checkout lanes.
“Instead of being asked do you want paper or plastic at checkout, consumers will simply be asked if they want a paper bag,” said state Sen. Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas). “This easy change eliminates plastic bags from the point of sale and helps California significantly reduce the plastic waste that is contaminating our environment and waters.”
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A long time ago, when Kalifornia was California, and Reagan Country abounded, I worked at a Bay Area Safeway Grocery Store. All we had were paper bags. Once the envirowackos started complaining and shouting 'save the trees!' The campaign against paper grocery bags succeeded in starting the first iteration of paper or plastic. The first plastic bags were absolutely horrendous. They were very hard to separate, could not hold much, and the handles broke easily. We eventually just used them to wrap up the ice cream.
As far as plastic in our environment, there are aquatic and land microorganisms that consume plastic. The same goes for hydrocarbons (oil, NG, etc). Oil seeps from the ocean floor, and these bugs eat it up. During the Deepwater Horizon disaster, they tried to questimate the total amount of oil that spilled into the Gulf. There were large oil plumes on the surface of the water, and even more under water. Eventually, they stated they could not find a lot of the oil they believed should be there. The real scientists discovered that, along with the huuuuge plumes of oil were huuuuge plumes of the microorganisms that eat hydrocarbons. The food supply of these bugs, oil, increased, and so did the bugs.
Now that Kalifornia has come full circle, and banned the plastic bags, will the latest Climate Wackos return to Save the Trees?
I am sure that ‘save the trees!’ will return soon. Never mind that paper is biodegradable, and that many of the trees used for paper are now grown in plantations.
I am sure that ‘save the trees!’ will return soon. Never mind that paper is biodegradable, and that many of the trees used for paper are now grown in plantations.
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You can reuse plastic bags, but you can’t reuse paper bags.
“ many of the trees used for paper are now grown in plantations ”
It’s been that way for,decades, especially in the southeast.
I’m in favor of consumers being allowed to choose. But personally speaking, I prefer paper.
Why can’t you reuse paper bags? I do all the time. If I’m going to a store that has paper bags sometimes I don’t bring my own bags just to get the paper bags.
I think paper bags can be recycled. Plus, they’re biodegradable. Nevertheless, I’m not in favor of banning plastic.
They aren’t durable as plastic bags. They tear.
Do you tape your bags together between each use?
Why? Because all the stores are closing in this shithole of a state?
Hey consumer, ya want a paper bag?
We survived decades using paper. Meats at the butchers
counter wrapped in the stuff to this day.
If one understands a brown paper sacks’
shortcomings, allowances can be made.
We can bring back the art of “sacking”
groceries, as there is a right way and a
wrong way to do so.
I usually shop at Trader Joe’s and they have really good bags. But I usually reuse them just for taking stuff somewhere, like I go to my sons very day to watch my grandson and take stuff for them (like Costco stuff where I don’t need all of it) or things I’m working on. or things for grandson, etc. I just think they’re easier to arrange stuff in, things don’t spill out,and I like the handles. Sorry for TMI about my paper bags!
I prefer the cotton bags that the stores have been offering for a dollar. Just plastic, but made of cotton and they are re-usable for ever.
I’ll use the cotton bags.
That’ll put a crimp in dog poop gathering!
I use flat-bottomed paper bags as disposable trash cans. I put a plastic bag on the bottom, the bag stands up so I can toss dry trash in, and then I can just roll down the top edges for the trip to the trash bin outside. My mom always asked for paper bags, so we had a container full of them. We’d use them for carrying gifts and as shoe and laundry bags on our vacations.
Since the bags are Kraft paper, they could be used to cover a surface for small painting/gluing projects.
We use paper plus plastic as waste basket liners. The paper inside plastic absorbs grease or moisture (in small amounts), the plastic helps keep it from wicking out. Beyond that, plastic bags have many uses not-as-bags. Or, several can be used to make up a fairly decent insulated bag, in a pinch. Either can also make half decent packing material for sending light items in packages, too.
My question would be, are they going to still charge the .10 cent “littering tax/fine” per bag?
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