Posted on 08/30/2024 4:03:02 PM PDT by Libloather
As one of the leaders of a Hazmat Team for years... basically everything is toxic at some level. If you drink too much water at one time it can and will kill you. If you breath pure oxygen for more than 16 hours, it can and will cause irreversible lung damage and kill you.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/why-does-breathing-pure-oxygen-kill-you
DDT was and is far less toxic to people and animals than many of the pesticides that were promoted as replacements. A few drops on unprotected skin of some of these chemicals can and did kill people.
When I was a kid, my dad always had pressurized cans of DDT available for us to use to control insects which were nuisances. Many of them were army surplus that my great uncle bought in bulk starting in the 1940s. I grew up on acreage with cows, pigs, and a variety of other farm animals; the danger from this source of DDT was far less than a lot of the other actual crazy stuff we used to do.
At this point in time few people seem to have the ability to perform any sort of realistic risk assessment. This is largely because of over-hyped coverage of anything that people have managed to stupidly do to themselves. A comedian (maybe George Carlin?) I watched did a routine about all of the crap people worry about when the thing that was most likely to kill them was their own heart. With the number of people in our society who eat too much and do not exercise this is truer today than ever before.
Severe outbreaks of what?
The next gain-of-function bioweapon in the globalists' arsenal?
In NYS they’ve pretty much banned all pesticides. I live near a swamp so the mosquitos are bad during the summer. I have to put down dunks and usually drive to PA to get the real deal.
Same thing with oil based paint which is AWESOME yet banned in NYS practically with new “low VOC” formulas which stink twice as bad and dry and 4X the time.
What kind of wackadoodle claims are you making here?
The harms of DDT are very well documented. Alternative, less lethal, approaches to controlling malaria have been more benign and effective in the long run in most countries—and DDT is still used in some countries and applications to this day.
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9YearLurker, if you wish to engage in discourse, I am happy to do so, but if you are going to open your dialogue with a term that implies that I know nothing of which I speak, I would rather not.
Are you interested or not?
If you are, just say so.
I think I’ll leave you to hide behind your condescension, thanks.
Thank you!
You were the one who characterized my views are “whackadoodle” which I felt was undeserved, and more demeaning and condescending than anything I said to you. But I am willing to put that aside as unimportant.
Besides, we have been on this forum together for a while-why do we need to be at odds about this?
If we engage in discussion on this, you might well have a point of view or a piece of the analysis I had not considered. The same might be true on your part regarding something I have to say. Don’t be afraid to engage in discussion on it. We can do that without ad hominem as we we have both been around here long enough, and I don’t recall any substantive examples of us getting crosswise with each other.
This is a serious issue, in the news right now because of the increased incidence of mosquito-borne diseases like West Nile virus. I think it is worthy of discussion.
Don’t you?
I am not sure why you don’t want to discuss this kind of thing-I am not looking to trample anyone in a discussion-I am no expert, though I do have a degree in Chemistry and Nuclear Medicine which at least gives me a foothold and am familiar with the format and practice of the types of scientific papers that are submitted to journals for publishing.
I really am curious. You view the “science” behind the banning of DDT as settled and beyond discussion, which I do not.
Why don’t you give me one example of the harm caused by DDT as an example of what you view as settled science? Just one-even if it is the thinning of the egg shells of predatory birds, which is the one most people know about-as an example? I have very specific views on that one subject which I am willing to express and stand behind. (And by the way-I readily concede that example of the thinning of egg-shells as a valid harm. Where we may disagree is the valid part that should have played in the banning of DDT.)
One of the reasons I come to FR is to engage in this type of discussion, because I learn from it. If I wanted to just absorb one side of a debate, I could go make comments in the YouTube forums supporting whatever stance is the one I agree with.
But if I come to Free Republic, I feel confident that even if my view is in conformance with the prevailing conservative view on some issue, I will absolutely get the other side if there is any validity to it. And I have to be prepared to defend my views.
I’m serious about this. If we engage in discussion, there are certain to be others looking on who may take issue with my view or yours, and we may have to alter or rethink our stances on it, as hard as that is to do.
But I am serious here-what do you see as the best documented example of the harm caused by DDT?
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