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Democratic Progress? Ukrainian Parliament Votes to Ban Orthodox Church in Ukraine
American Greatness ^ | August 22, 2024 | AG staff

Posted on 08/22/2024 2:34:27 PM PDT by chickenlips

Ukraine’s Parliament has created the legal tools for a governmental ban on any religious group that it deems to be too closely tied to Russia by voting for a bill that explicitly bans the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine.

However, the ban also directly affects the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC), which the Ukrainian government says is too closely tied to Moscow because of its historic ties to the Russian Orthodox Church.

After more than a year and a half of legal wrangling over the language of the bill, Ukrainian lawmakers are set to ban the sole canonical body of Orthodox Christians in the Ukraine.

Today, the Ukrainian Rada adopted bill 8371 to ban the Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Large parts of its population speak Russian and are Orthodox Christians. The American-backed de-russification / purge of Ukraine that began with the coup in 2014 intensifieshttps://t.co/KZTHkKeWjQ

— Glenn Diesen (@Glenn_Diesen) August 20, 2024

Three months after the February 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the UOC publicly proclaimed its loyalty to Ukraine and its independence from the Russian Orthodox Church.

Ukrainian officials remain skeptical of the UOC because of its centuries-long affiliation with the Russian Orthodox Church.

The new law explicitly bans religious organizations with ties to any organization located in a state that is carrying out armed aggression against Ukraine.

While the impending ban may soothe some of the Ukrainian leadership’s fears about a competing moral authority to their own, it raises some serious concerns about the religious freedom of an entire religious body caught in the middle of a long term political conflict.

(Excerpt) Read more at amgreatness.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: ban; church; denomination; moscowpatriarchate; orthodox; orthodoxchurch; prorussia; putin; tyranny; ukraine; uoc; zelenskyqs
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1 posted on 08/22/2024 2:34:27 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: chickenlips

Which affects almost no one in Ukraine, less than 4%, since most Ukraine Orthodox belong to a non-Russian controlled branch.


2 posted on 08/22/2024 2:36:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Zelensky is Jewish. I don’t think he’s too fond of any Orthodox, so it’s probably a matter of time. He’s just picking low fruit at the moment.


3 posted on 08/22/2024 2:39:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30

Learn something about this years long news story before you post that silly stuff.


4 posted on 08/22/2024 2:41:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Did you even read the excerpt?

Today, the Ukrainian Rada adopted bill 8371 to ban the Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Large parts of its population speak Russian and are Orthodox Christians.

It is just like the Zelensky regime to take the moral high ground.

5 posted on 08/22/2024 2:43:53 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ansel12

You trust the media to tell the truth?
I know how liberals and politics work.
So, I know where they are going.
It’s not the first time that liberals have gone after to cancel Christianity.
He’s just picking low fruit, but the the Ukranian Orthodox is also in his sights.
If you think that Zelenskyy is a Christian, becuase he said Chrsitian things, you must also have believed that Hitler was a Christian because he said Christian things.


6 posted on 08/22/2024 2:46:03 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Pontiac

Zeepers are always right so they don’t bother with anything that may go against their own opinion. /s


7 posted on 08/22/2024 2:48:27 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ansel12

The globalists want to cancel Russia, period. Just as they want to eliminate 800 million ethnic Europeans, they also want to eliminate 143 million Russians.

It’s a skin colour issue.


8 posted on 08/22/2024 2:49:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Pontiac

Did you read post 2?

The Orthodox religion is not banned nor is Christianity, for about 2 years we have been going through this same old routine.


9 posted on 08/22/2024 2:49:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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The main reason being is because the Orthodox church is run by Europeans and white Asians.

249 million people in the 20th century were murdered by the globalist liberals and around 150 million of those were white.

They are just looking to finish the job.


10 posted on 08/22/2024 2:51:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: ansel12
"Which affects almost no one in Ukraine, less than 4%, since most Ukraine Orthodox belong to a non-Russian controlled branch."

Are you a disgusting leftists? I only ask because you comment like one.

11 posted on 08/22/2024 2:54:32 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: chickenlips
...too closely tied to Moscow because of its historic ties to the Russian Orthodox Church.
IIRC, the Russians established the 1st Orthodox church on the North American continent.

Are they also going to try to kick American churches to the curb?

12 posted on 08/22/2024 2:54:49 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: ansel12

He’s just picking low fruit.
Do you understand how liberals operate?
They get their nose in the tent and then they push the whole camel in.
What they did was a first step to banning Christianity altogether.
The war with Russia is the first step to eliminating whites altogether.


13 posted on 08/22/2024 2:55:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30; rmlew
Zelensky is Jewish. I don’t think he’s too fond of any Orthodox, so it’s probably a matter of time. He’s just picking low fruit at the moment.

The Russian Orthodox church under the Patriarch of Moscow has been a KGB/FSB controlled propaganda group since Stalin ordered the takeover during WWII. Zelensky has no problem the Patriarch of Kyiv or any western Christian denominations. It is Putin who has banned all non Russian Orthodox denominations in Russia.

14 posted on 08/22/2024 2:57:11 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: ansel12

Do you believe there are good globalists and bad globalists?
Because you seem to be on the side of the globalists and their desire to destroy Russia.

There are no good globalists. There are no good liberals. There are no good socialists.


15 posted on 08/22/2024 2:58:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Paleo Conservative

As it was noted earlier, Zelenskyy also went after the Ukrainian Orthodox church.

Zelenskyy is a globalist. He’s a genocidist. He’s cutting off all support for Russians in the Ukraine. He’s not just after Russia. He’s after Russians, because of their ethnicity. He plans to choke them out, after cutting off their access to their culture. He’s already banned Russian books and culture in his country.

He’s doing to same thing that was done to the Jews and he’s just getting warmed up.


16 posted on 08/22/2024 3:01:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30

The Chabad rabbi closest to Zelensky parents believes Z has converted to Ukrainian Orthodoxy. Z seems evasive about it, but his children were baptized into their mother’s religion.


17 posted on 08/22/2024 3:06:13 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: chickenlips

The only Russian Orthodox Church clergy left after the Communist purges were full fledged Communist... It’s like putting the Jesuits in charge of the Catholic Church... Oops... Too late. Francis is already the first and hopefully the last Jesuit Pope.


18 posted on 08/22/2024 3:07:53 PM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: chickenlips

Because the priests are selected and given the OK by Moscow


19 posted on 08/22/2024 3:08:53 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: ansel12

Yup. The RuZZian Orthodox Church has been a creature of autocrats and dictators going back to the Tsars through Stalin and now Putin.
Kirill the “patriarch” is a corrupt oligarch worth 4 Billion dollars.


20 posted on 08/22/2024 3:08:54 PM PDT by Kozak (Слава Україні Герояам Слава. RuZZia is a terrorist state.)
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