Posted on 08/13/2024 12:13:59 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
It's been confirmed that they liberated 74 settlements and keep moving forward.
You are entitled form your own opinions. I am glad you at least tried to explain your positions. More than many, much appreciated.
This was NATO’s entire offensive effort for the 2024 effort. A daring, lighting fast 36-hour thrust to put themselves in a position to leverage the Kursk nuclear plant in order to make demands.
Several days ago Ukriane flew drones over the nuclear plant the Russians have held since 2014, and drop explosives into the cooling tower, damaging the fans, causing it to overheat, forcing an emergency shutdown.
Maybe Ukraine wants peace but Zelinski ordered the legislature to write a law for his signature stating it is illegal for negotiations with Russia. Until as such time as Ukraine decides to revoke that law, or remove Zelinski, there cannot be as Trump demanded “Negotiations in Good Faith”.
Redefinning of the terminology surrounding this conflict provide the legal framework. A Special Operation is not a declaration of War.
Russia has for the FIRST TIME ruled out negotiations with Ukraine. Say what you will, but all the activity by Ukraine’s chief diplomats with India and China have left them publically rebuking Ukriane for wasting their time with yet another negotiations ruse. Add the efforts of China and India until this week to the Minsk I & II, along with the Istabul Agreements which Ukraine has shown bad faith, and you get a country which is unserious about negotiations.
The two efforts to make nuclear plants pawns or to damage one outright in the last week dovetail into a picture of Zelinski being desperate and it is insanity for Ukraine to threaten nuclear plant damage given their own history with Chernobyl. Ukrianians know better than even this generation of Japanese the horrors of a nuclear meltdown, yet they attempted one outright.
Thus you come to the Extasenial Threat to both peoples, poised not only by nuclear terrorism, but by the failure of Ukraine to seriously engage in any form of negotiations.
Maybe the Democrats and Lindsay Graham have promised Ukraine that Trump will not become president that we will fund the war for the next ten years. Your guess is as good as mine.
However, the change in terminologies in discussion means the legal framework may be moving towards a declaration of war.
One little country, Ukraine, backed by NATO and another group of US allies in the Pacific has split the world into two different economic halves. The US has used sanctions to kill the Petro Dollar in 2022/23. The nearly 20,000 sanctions placed on Russia at this point has literally, yes literally forced small countries to seek Brics membership where sanctions are illegal in which to engage. The talk and attempts to justify stealing over 300B in Russian financial assets in the EU and US have been shortsighted, and further expedited the expansion of Brics, and isolation of the Western World into it’s economic bubble; a huge bubble now but when the west finally sneezes it will be the west that catches a cold as the economies of the world put their dependence on India, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia (S. Africa isn’t important expect they are a founding member of Brics).
The Russians have evacuated thousands from the area because there were bands of soldiers firing on civilians. Those bands contained people who spoke Polish, English, or French.
As before, when the Russians evacuate an area, and the Ukrainians flood into that area, the Ukrainians declare that they have ‘liberated’ that region.The declare victory over empty lands they drive into.
The Ukrainian plan to enter Kursk was known weeks in advance. Putin let the border stand down so they would enter. 6 days after initially Ukrainian wave crossed the border, more Ukrainians were entering because Putin left the border open. Sadly it won’t remain open. Once Putin closes the border, brigades of his best men are lost. I don’t want those men to die for nothing (Zelensky).
The West seems to have selected a replacement for Zelensky, but I doubt it will come in time to save these Ukrainian sacrifices. In fact, NATO planned this incursion, probably on Zelensky’s watch so they could ‘get away’ with trying to provoke war via nuclear threat and then dispose of Zelensky once they were done, blaming him for their actions.
“Liberated” meaning the Ruskie settlements now want to be part of Ukraine? Not buying that.
humm... Seems like that idea would be condemned by all those who railed at Russia for supposedly shelling the Zaporizhzhia NPP a few years ago. Double standard?
Ukraine has sent patrols and sabotage teams against that plant captured by Russia for over two years. They have lobbed a shell at it here and there monthly for over two years.
Russia is simply pointing out that NATO controls Ukriane. Russia did not directly state it to the public, but to the diplomats it is understood any negotiations will be between the US and Russia, and that Russia considers the US responsible for their proxy dogs.
Undoubtedly, there are thousands. It's one of life mysteries why russians never captured any of them.
Simply another Putin’s grand 6D strategy.
“Once Putin closes the border, brigades of his best men are lost.”
Just wait until the ground freezes !!1
But they could easily fake the referendum just like the russians did.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine says it is still advancing in Russia's Kursk region (74 settlements liberated), Grzegorz 246 wrote: “Those bands contained people who spoke Polish, English, or French.” Undoubtedly, there are thousands. It's one of life mysteries why russians never captured any of them.
Who says they haven't? But, according to some, the Russians aren't interested in keeping those they deem 'terrorists' alive.
Reminds me of that time traveler. He came from the future but can’t say anything about any future events as that would be against the time travel ethics. Perfectly logical.
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