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Oh my word, if this is true, this is a major failure in the Secret Service protocol.........you don't let the bad guy with a gun shot the President first - you take the threat out BEFORE they shot the President.
1 posted on 07/15/2024 8:58:33 AM PDT by blueyon
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I don’t believe it, but I’m open to be persuaded. Show me some proof.


116 posted on 07/15/2024 9:53:39 AM PDT by Roadrunner383
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I don’t believe this is true, because it makes no sense for the SS. {It can make sense for snipers in other situations, but not this.) It’s a lie.


125 posted on 07/15/2024 9:56:19 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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Someone in a different thread suggested the following story he found on The Charlie Ward Show. I know nothing of Charlie Ward or 4chan but it's a bombshell if true. What I posted was from a Brave browser search on his name

Jonathan Willis is a former US Navy veteran and a Fire Lieutenant/Paramedic who has been involved in various fields, including real estate and firearms training. He has gained attention recently due to a widely circulated post on 4chan, where he claimed to be the sniper who was assigned to protect Donald Trump during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

According to the post, Jonathan Willis had the assassin in his sights for at least 3 minutes but was prevented from taking the shot by the head of the Secret Service. He stated that he did not follow the orders and returned fire despite strict instructions not to engage.

It is essential to note that the authenticity of the post has not been verified, and many have questioned its legitimacy. The Secret Service has not commented on the matter, and the incident remains under investigation.

132 posted on 07/15/2024 10:02:37 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (GO LIONS)
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To: blueyon

This cannot be true.


133 posted on 07/15/2024 10:03:00 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: blueyon

They actually are a hate filled, Satan controlled people.
The media paints a picture and the dumb sheep believe it.. The result is a list people who are apt to do anything.
And gun ownership has nothing to do with psychos getting a weapon to kill.
I.. And many more.. Are FED UP with the loose, insane, walking around.. On tv network.. Newsmedia... Selling Satan’s lies.. You all should be grounded for attempted assassination of Trump. He will be back in the oval office and we can take as many on a one way plane, back home. And another plane ride for all you haters. You just can’t tolerate a good man..


135 posted on 07/15/2024 10:03:31 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie ( )
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I call Bovine Scatology on this one, no one in their right mind would work a Protective Detail if this is the case, even that SS lady who couldn’t pull her weapon out of it’s holster.


136 posted on 07/15/2024 10:04:49 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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..If the cops were walking up to your door - for some little matter - and your dog got out, they’d be firing away like it was the O.K. Corral..

But when it’s Donald Trump’s life?.. “nahh.. stand down, let him take his shot first..”


138 posted on 07/15/2024 10:06:08 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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I posted this in response to this reporting:

You or our source are full of dung. If a weapon is brought to bear upon the asset, you are free to engage. In point of fact, if any person in the crowd had a firearm and saw Crooks take aim at Trump, they would be well within the law to fire upon the crooked perp. 9.502 – 9.506 JUSTIFICATION: USE OF FORCE/DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF OTHERS. While I don’t practice law in PA, this law is almost universal because it makes sense.

If what you say is true, then, why even have Secret Service Protection? You’d be better off having your friends, constituents, and relatives out protecting you under the authority bestowed upon them by Pennsylvania law. Maybe Kennedy is lucky not to have SS protection.


140 posted on 07/15/2024 10:06:34 AM PDT by Nogara
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When I go on ‘news’ or ‘news Trump’ to look to see what else there is surprisingly no immediate articles come up about this whole assassination attemopt.

Kind of reminds me of when a kid is guilty and he doesn’t want to talk about it.


141 posted on 07/15/2024 10:07:18 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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It wasn’t the Secret Service that were the counter-snipers. Their tactical vests say very clearly, “POLICE,” on them.

Has anyone seen this news story?

Secret Service blames local police, says they were tasked with securing properties surrounding Trump’s Pa. rally
https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/secret-service-blames-local-police-says-it-was-tasked-with-securing-properties-surrounding-trumps-pa-rally/


146 posted on 07/15/2024 10:09:37 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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“ Instead, they said, several factors contributed to Saturday’s security lapses, including that first lady Jill Biden was having an event the same day in nearby Pittsburgh, and Vice President Kamala Harris was having another in Philadelphia, taking up some of the local Secret Service resources that could have been used to help protect Trump’s rally.”
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Just a coincidence - NOT! 50 states, and both are in the same state as Trump on the same day. BS that this is happenstance.


147 posted on 07/15/2024 10:09:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Is this the case for Biden as well? I doubt it.


148 posted on 07/15/2024 10:09:44 AM PDT by Husker24 (Pp)
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That is absolutely NOT true, per Dan Bongino, former SS Agent. If a true threat is detected, they MUST shoot him.


155 posted on 07/15/2024 10:17:51 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's not as if Biden has the nuclear codes or anything. 😳)
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Evil. Someone wanted Trump dead.

And this isn’t a oh well, all is good.

SOMEONE IS DEAD and others are in critical condition. And others will be traumatized by this.

People need to be fired and people need to be held accountable.


156 posted on 07/15/2024 10:20:32 AM PDT by goodolemr
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Yup, reactive logic. Zero predictive or preventative logic!


160 posted on 07/15/2024 10:25:11 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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165 posted on 07/15/2024 10:32:09 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CJWBUBTcQ0

This is also good (by Jesse Watters)


170 posted on 07/15/2024 10:37:35 AM PDT by Lake Living
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If the sat images are accurate, that wasn’t exactly Dealey Plaza. Hardly any other roofs in sight. How hard could it have been to station a man there?
I and members of my family have been in cities, and owned homes in cities, where presidents have campaigned. For half a mile around, the land is crawling with government agents. They’re on your roof, in your house, counting your windows, taking pictures, taking names...
Here they had essentially a pasture, almost no elevation anywhere, and 360 degrees of visibility.
Not to mention people pointing at the lunatic with the rifle.
Convince me they couldn’t have done a better job, and that the danger is over.


174 posted on 07/15/2024 10:39:42 AM PDT by Buttons12 (Should, should, should. Fighting words. )
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WH and Ntl Political Correspondent Susan Crabtree reported the Trump shooting was enabled by:
<><>the potential lack of drone surveillance
<><>Biden S/S appointee Kim Cheatle’s “DEI” protocols
<><>and because Cheatle-dictated rules of engagement prohibits engaging until the assassin shoots first.


176 posted on 07/15/2024 10:45:26 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray : Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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Old tagline resurected:
I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.


178 posted on 07/15/2024 10:46:10 AM PDT by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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