[1Old Pro]

Normal, good and decent people are fed up to the max and will demand and gladly welcome separation from these bastards.

True, but difficult to get on the ballot. If upstaters could separate from downstate New York, it would win in a landslide.

[laplata]

Good point. That’s pretty much how it is in most Red States.

We’re in such deep trouble that no one can know how it’s going to transpire.