Posted on 07/05/2024 4:39:40 PM PDT by dennisw
Ukraine has used sea drones to devastating effect against Russia's far superior Black Sea Fleet. Drones could 'radically' change naval warfare, Pavlo Lakiychuk told the Kyiv Independent. He said they pose a threat to larger navies and give smaller navies a chance to turn the tide. Sea drones could radically change naval warfare, giving smaller navies a chance to "flip the chessboard," a retired Ukrainian naval officer told the Kyiv Independent.
Pavlo Lakiychuk told the outlet that sea drones present a "serious" threat to modern navies, which have spent billions creating enormous, supposedly "impenetrable killing" weapons.
For those nations that lack the resources to create their own large, ocean-going fleets, "this is a chance to flip the chessboard," he added. Since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion, Ukraine has made significant strides in naval warfare, upgrading its naval drones, innovating their use, and deploying them to devastating effect against Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
It needed to look to solutions like this because it doesn't have a navy of its own.
In February, the UK's Ministry of Defence said Ukraine had "almost certainly" sunk the Russian corvette Ivanovets using naval drones.
They also played a key role in taking out an estimated third of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, the UK MOD said a month later.
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If you flip the chessboard, you lose. Even if you’re a Grand Master.
The Russian learned the hard way. I hope our leaders paid attention.
This is a Ukrainian sea-drone. That have been very effective against Putin's decimated Black Sea fleet. Turns out the Black Sea commander was an ultra vodka swiller, so has been fired. Iran was quick to pick up on sea drones. The IRGC has used them too, from their base in Houthi Land. So far blowing up one cargo ship.
The US Navy has been experimenting with unmanned combat and reconnaissance boats and subs for a long time. What I see coming from this is every boat entering a combat zone will deploy a swarm of surface, subsurface and/or airborne drones to search out and destroy enemy drones.
To this point the navy drones were just an adjunct to search out and destroy other manned assets. But the technology can be adapted to search and destroy other drones.
The future technology will be towards smaller drones that will not be as easy to spot. How do you tell the difference between a seagull and a small drone? That’s a toughie. While a seagull sized drone won’t sink a ship, it can hit the radar and antennas or blind point defenses with chaff. Used in conjunction with sea skimming missiles tiny drones could be very effective kill multipliers.
Would you want your son serving on an aircraft carrier?
Would you want your son serving on an aircraft carrier?
“Would you want your son serving on an aircraft carrier?”
No. But not because I think carriers are dangerous. I don’t like the way the Democrats have politicized the military. Before I retired in 2013 the companies I worked for, which were a distorted reflection of the military were indoctrinating us employees in the alphabet, DEI, ESG, agenda. The last place I worked we had to sing a contract, as these requirements were against Florida law, that, among other things we would never tell a joke. So, I wouldn’t suggest my son work for the military industrial complex or even a large company. I’d steer him to being a self-employed plumber, electrician or mechanic.
Recent war games say if we get in a hot war in the Pacific we’ll lose two carriers. I think that’s optimistic as we assume the Chinese will start small and escalate slowly. We assumed that about the Japanese as well.
Not in Joe Bidens Navy.
But our aircraft carriers are notoriously hard to sink.
We tried to do it to one our old ones a few years back
with guns bombs and torpedoes and still had to manually scuttle it.
I wouldn’t want to be on a carrier.
But most of the crew would be dead before it sank.
A day or two ago, the YouTube, What’s Going On With Shipping discussed the Houthi sea drones. Apparently they are crewed right up until the attack run. The man or two jump off and the drone is radio-controlled to hit the target by a chase boat behind. Another boat picks up the guy who jumped. Not exactly high tech.
Little bitty water craft. A WW2 destroyer and it’s 40mm bofors mounts would chew them them up easily.
How so?
“How so?
We tried to do it to one our old ones a few years back
with guns bombs and torpedoes and still had to manually scuttle it”.
How so? You answered your own question. Few could survive that kind of punishment.
A few is enough.
Sing a contract? That's a violation of Amendment 8 on cruel and unusual punishment.
Sea, land and air drones. The entire battlefield is different now. We better be changing our ways.
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I’ll say this: 53 years ago in Viet Nam, us Grunts would have referred to guys like you as REMFs.
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